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Sorry, But Japan Still Can’t Get the War Right

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Japan Prime Minister Shinzo Abe poses in a jet trainer emblazoned with “731” -- the same number as an infamous Imperial Army unit from World War II.

TOKYO – After weeks of muddled statements, verbal gaffes and bungled photo ops, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has made one thing unintentionally clear: He thinks Japan did little wrong in its years of war and colonial expansion, and he sees no reason to apologize now.

The controversy, perfectly avoidable, has alienated both friends and foes and renewed fears of rising nationalism in Japan. It may be too much to expect Abe and other conservatives to abandon comforting historical narratives.  But if Abe cannot manage to at least reign in the rhetoric, it could worsen an already dangerous security environment, and wreck Japan’s best shot in decades at reviving its slumbering economy.

“I believe that Shinzo Abe honestly thinks that the Second World War and the aggression and events leading up to it were relative – that Japan basically was forced into fighting because of Western colonial policies,” says Robert Campbell, a professor of Japanese literature at the University of Tokyo and a long-time social commentator for Japanese television and radio.  “It’s very difficult to move on and to gain the political capital necessary to solve difficult economic and political problems when you are constantly carrying this enormous bagful of historical rocks.”

The latest drama began last month, during a question-and-answer session in the Diet. Abe, who had focused largely and so far successfully on boosting the economy, repeated a standard line recognizing that Japan had caused great suffering and damage during World War II. But he added that he did not fully agree with a landmark apology issued by Japan’s prime minister in 1995, and he questioned, in lawyer-like fashion, whether Japan had actually committed “aggression” against anyone during the war.

“The definition of aggression has yet to be established in academia or in the international community,” Abe said. The policy chief for Abe’s Liberal Democratic Party later said that Abe also disagreed with the allied tribunal that found 14 wartime leaders guilty of war crimes.

Predictably, there were howls of protest from China, where an estimated 20 million Chinese died fighting the Japanese in the 1930s and 1940s, and in Korea, which Japan ruled as a colony from 1910 to 1945.  South Korea quickly cancelled a visit by its foreign minister to Tokyo and withheld an invitation to Japan to attend a diplomatic conference with China and the United States; in a clear snub, President Park Geun Hye scheduled her first visit to an Asian country with China, rather than with Japan.

More ominously, articles appeared in China’s government-controlled press hinting that Japan’s entire southwest island chain, not just the disputed Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands, might actually belong to China.

It didn’t help that nearly 170 LDP members visited the Yasukuni Shrine during its annual spring festival.  Some 2.3 million Japanese soldiers who died on behalf of the country are memorialized at Yasukuni. But the ones who really matter – at least to Japan’s neighbors and former victims — are the 14 wartime leaders who were tried, convicted and hanged for war crimes by allied authorities.

Nor did it help that Osaka Mayor Toru Hashimoto, a rising conservative star, claimed that the “comfort women” system — which is believed to have forced some 200,000 Asian women into sexual servitude — had been “necessary” to maintain good order and discipline in the Japanese military. He later clarified that he did not approve of the system, and blamed translators and foreign media for implying otherwise.

The extent of Abe’s tone-deafness, however, was demonstrated during a goodwill visit to the tsunami-ravaged region of Japan last week.  With the controversy still swirling, Abe posed for a photo in the cockpit of a military training jet emblazoned with the number “731” – that’s the unit number of an infamous Imperial Army group that conducted lethal chemical and biological warfare experiments on Chinese citizens.

Entire chapters are devoted to Unit 731 in the harshly anti-Japanese educational systems in China and South Korea. That neither Abe nor his handlers grasped the significance of the photo – or didn’t care – demonstrates the distance between Japan and its neighbors when it comes to wartime issues.

It wasn’t until the U.S. Congressional Research Service issued a report in early May branding Abe a “nationalist” and warning that the controversy over historical issues could damage U.S. interests that Abe and the LDP went into serious damage control. Abe now says he fully accepts the apologies issued by previous administrations.

In some respects, none of this should be surprising. Abe has long exhibited strongly conservative, if not nationalist, tendencies. His grandfather, Nobusuke Kishi, was a wartime industry minister who was arrested on suspicion of war crimes; Kishi was never charged and later became prime minister. At a recent ceremony marking the anniversary of the return of Japanese sovereignty after the war, Abe was among the first to raise his arms in an unscripted – and somewhat startling — “Banzai” salute to the Emperor and Empress.

Although the war crimes tribunal adjudicated thousands of individual cases, there has never been a public examination of Japan’s wartime conduct and the issue has remain largely unresolved.

Prime Minister Tomiichi Murayama in 1995 issued an official apology for Japan’s “mistaken national policy” and “colonial rule and aggression.”  Two years earlier, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yohei Kono issued an apology for the “comfort women” system.

Abe has tried to re-focus attention on his economic policies, which have boosted consumer spending, pushed down the value of the Yen and boosted the stock market by 55 percent. Although public approval ratings for Abe and his Cabinet have slipped in recent weeks, it remains at  70.9 percent, astonishingly high by the standards of recent prime ministers.

Still, don’t expect the issue to go away, or to hear any apologies from Abe or other conservative leaders.

“They’ll say things like, ‘I really regret for all of the things that happened.’ Or ‘I regret the suffering that took place.’ Or they’ll leave out the subject, so it sounds like ‘things just sort of happened,” says Campbell. “But they won’t say, ‘The Imperial Japanese Army committed atrocities, and as a representative of the Japanese people, I deeply apologize.’ They’ll never come out and say that.”

106 comments
lazarus00000
lazarus00000

Smack them down before China eraces the race.

They are truly fools if they even begin to think in the terms of Bushido again. That being said just give them a lot of knives and tell them the truth. They will commit Hari Kari... problem solved.

DavidHall
DavidHall

>> But if Abe cannot manage to at least reign in the rhetoric

REIN in, not "reign" in.

Jaguar6cy
Jaguar6cy

Mr. Abe was probably educated here in the US, where history departments tend to teach this type propaganda pretending that it is history.   It is a way to keep public attention away from their abuse of students with overpriced tuition and obscene student debt levels.

Rio
Rio

Why push a dead issue?   The only reason in 2013 is to humiliate.  That just continues the problems.

IanBortner
IanBortner

History is written by the victor.  How is them conquering regions to expand their territories any different than what the US did in the Pacific?  We conquered Hawaii, the Phillipines, and dozens of islands all across the Pacific with bloody conquests in the decades leading up to WW2, and when Japan started doing the same thing we accuse them of being the evil plundering conquerers.

TadashigeTochifu
TadashigeTochifu

"...an estimated 20 million Chinese died fighting the Japanese in the 1930s and 1940s," "...forced some 200,000 Asian women into sexual servitude" Where are these numbers from? Mr. Spitzer, could you substantiate?

--A curious reader

jzc01
jzc01

Japan has never admitted the crimes it committed during WWII. This is a fact that Americans should not forget when the US government is considering it an ally. We are raising a monster. 


thmak
thmak

Kirk Spitzer"  Japan's insulting intransigence is the result of the America-Japan Defense Treaty and the approval of Japan's manipulation of its currency by the USA and the European countries. With these strong backings by its Western allies, Japan fear not any attack by any of those whom Japan choose to attack. Amereica created the brutal maniac Japan before WWII and now creates the thug and goon Japan now.  What goes around will comes around.  

DerekChen
DerekChen

@IanBortner I believe you are the one who is unaware of the facts. Take a look at the Nanking massacre. Perhaps the Nazis killed more, but the Japanese killed more cruelly and in inhuman manners. For example unit 731 experimented on humans in most cruel manners. Japanese soldiers were also chauvinist pigs with a large sex drive and would commonly rape mass amounts of women. 


Secondly unti 731 is a group which would test diseases, weapons of mass destruction ON PRISONERS OF WAR A.K.A  Canadians, Philippines, Chinese, Koreans etc. Humans would be dissected ALIVE and grenades and chemicals would be tested on live subjects too. 


Yes it is true that war is written by the victors but Japanese people committed atrocities that simply violate common code of humanity and moral conduct. These are FACTS in fact nowadays Japan still refuses the admit to the atrocities they committed and telling their children that they simply "walked in to the country" without doing much. 

KeithMcLennan
KeithMcLennan

@IanBortner  History was written by the victors when only the victors knew how to write. That is why the Greeks and Romans have so many historians, while the people they conquered often have none. But in the modern world, both victors and vanquished write history. In Japan, they write history textbooks that whitewash the Pacific War. 

As for your second point, you may rest assured that no nation in the Asia-Pacific, including those which were administered by the United States in the 1940s, welcomed the onslaught of the Japanese Imperial Army. 

But without exception they did welcome defence, or liberation, by the United States. As Australian Prime Minister John Curtin put it after Pearl Harbor, "Without any inhibitions of any kind, I make it quite clear that Australia looks to America."

maxinerwb
maxinerwb

@IanBortner  Boy are you dumb.  The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, conquered just about everything surrounding their Island.  In Korea they took young women by force and made them their sex slaves.  They also did the same to Australia and New Zealand.   In the decades leading up to WW2:  YOU DUMB S*** THAT WAS THE JAPANESE.  HOW IN THE WORLD DID YOU THINK IT WAS US.  WHO THE H*** ARE YOU?  WHERE DID YOU STUDY HISTORY.  HOW OLD ARE YOU?

You are too stupid to even consider you might have a cogent thought.  BE GONE WITH YOU SPAWN OF SATAN

nicolee_ng
nicolee_ng

@IanBortnerspeaking as a Hong Kong high school student, I'll have to disagree with your argument. I don't think that atrocities committed by other countries - or in this case, the Americans as you mentioned - has anything to do with whether or not the Japanese were "evil plundering conquerers". They are two separate cases and events committed by two different countries, and although of the same essence, that does not in any way justify what the Japanese did in WWII or even prior to that. I'm not saying what the Americans did was right, but according to your argument, does this mean that its okay to murder someone just because another guy did also? Whatever the other guy did, whatever the Americans did, whatever the German Nazis did, it will never change the fact that Japan had indeed invaded China and Korea and other Asian countries in the 19th century. It's simple logic and it would simply be an ignorant and blatant refusal to acknowledge the facts for anyone to deny what the Japanese did in WWII. 


and responding to what you said about history being written by victors, please help me understand how The Nanjing Massacre, with an estimated 250,000 to 300,000 Chinese civilians killed by Japanese soldiers during Japan's invasion in 1937 is not an act of plundering and bloody conquest? Tell me how that can be fabricated to somehow "frame" Japan as an aggressor? The facts are clear and simple, and its high time people in the world as well as officials and the people of Japan realize that unless we settle and investigate what really went on during the Japanese invasion, there will also be a barrier between Japan and the international community, and a gross humiliation to the morals and memories of Chinese and Asians who have been affected by the war. What kind of example are adults setting to their children by ignoring, deflecting or covering up past historical events that have hurt and destroyed lives and families? And this obviously doesn't only include Japan nor does it only regard the issue of war. 

duduong
duduong

@TadashigeTochifu A multitude of historians, in fact, every historian outside of Japan. Pick a city, any city outside of Japan. Go to the History Department of the largest university there. Talk to its resident expert on WWII, and you will find that the 20M number is the low end of the estimate and definitely includes only the direct casualties. Indirect casualties like those dying of famine while under Japanese occupation amount to similar numbers again.

As for the comfort women, documentations are even firmer, but that does not stop successive Japanese governments from covering them up, of course. The idea is to wait for the victims to die of old age. It is working well.

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

@jzc01 japans admitted it and apologized dozens of times. the wars over. who cares what japans says or visits .only china cannot forgive  gro up

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

How is China bulling and stealing the whole South China sea (or trying to ) not being a thug? Brutalizing the entire Tibetan population too .  Explain how Japan is  brutalizing and killing,or as i suspect you have no such proof . Go ahead be a man,  tells  us!  \The world awaits

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

@thmak the wars over, Period !! The assignment of blame, is man's most futile pastime "Isaac Azimov"

KeithMcLennan
KeithMcLennan

@maxinerwb The Japanese never occupied Australia or New Zealand. They did massacre some Australian nurses who were captured in what is now Indonesia, and they mistreated others very badly (see Betty Jeffrey's 'White Coolies', 1954). 

But these nurses were never actually 'comfort women'. Comfort women were conscripted in Japanese colonies, mainly Korea, to  be permanent 'staff' in Imperial Army brothels. They were another category altogether from captured foreigners.

HomleandSequirty
HomleandSequirty

@maxinerwb @IanBortner Can you prove that Japan took young women by force? The fact is that they were recruited by Koreans, sold into prostitution by their own families.

Rio
Rio

@nicolee_ng   To understand one must also understand Japanese thinking of the time.  I talked with one of the American nurses who was captured by the Japanese during WW2.    Those people are dead.  The current generations are innocent of any crimes.  The continuing meanness is not excusable.  All it does is to continue conflict.   It's like holding a dead issue over the heads of people who were not born.   It is over and done.  

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

@duduong @TadashigeTochifu you right china will use this argument forever every time they got a beef with Japan now lets talk about Tibet all the people raper tortures murdered etc

TadashigeTochifu
TadashigeTochifu

@duduong @TadashigeTochifu Thank you for your response. I would still like to know how these estimated numbers were arrived at. However, just as you suggested, I will need to consult research done by historians to find out--I hope to do so soon. 

Speaking as a Japanese citizen living in Japan, I am genuinely alarmed by the seemingly large number and the visibility of "denialists" in Japan. Those types might reconsider their own positions if presented with meticulously calculated estimates of the casualties and damages caused by Japan (even though I realize I may be too naive to think that). But right now, I feel that many of the "numbers" remain sort of fuzzy and under-substantiated, as they get quoted and re-quoted in various news articles and online media all too often without citations.

JohnSheehan
JohnSheehan

@BobWilliamKnight @jzc01 Really, Bob? Have you ever discussed the feelings of American, British and Australian prisons of war and their families>

You show a remarkable lack of knowledge and empathy.  The article is inaccurate. Americans and British were tortured, given serious diseases (like typhoid and cholera) and dissected, without anesthesia, while still alive.

MikeWilliams
MikeWilliams

@BobWilliamKnight China is "stealing" the South China Sea (it actually says China in the name ironically enough). It's disputed waters where no country has clear territories. China is simply trying to hog as much of it for itself, which is understandable. 

As for Tibet, I feel the issue is much more complicated than western media is portraying it, but certainly, the Chinese Government should learn to respect human rights there. However, it's hard to hold the moral high ground when our own government doesn't even respect our own citizen's privacy. 

duduong
duduong

@BobWilliamKnight Chinese in Tibet are similar to white people in the US, but with three differences:

1. Tibet actually invaded China first before being annexed. White immigrants simply came for the land without any justifiable cause.

2. Chinese never massacred the locals. Tibetans are still the majority of the population there. American Indians, way less than 1%.

3. CIA paid Dalai $180k per year from 1953 (Korean War) to 1972 (Nixon visit to Mao) to rebel against China. Chinese intelligence service did not fund rebel Americans.

China in South China Sea is similar to the US in the Pacific, but with three differences:

1. The Pacific is not called the West American Ocean.

2. The South China Sea Islands were uninhabited originally, so China did not have to slaughter the locals (Hawaiians, filipinos. etc.).

3. China owned those islands three hundred years ago already, before any contestant nations even existed; the US had take its islands with gunboats.

duduong
duduong

@BobWilliamKnight @thmak Do you hold the same opinion about the Nazi war criminals? If yes, you are one sad excuse for a human being. If no, the difference between Japan and Germany was only in the victims' race, not numbers. You are then a certifiable racist, still a sad excuse for a human being.

jzc01
jzc01

@BobWilliamKnight  You are pathetic being who knows nothing about history, present or the future. You are either  an uneducated ignorant fool or one who is trying to to disguise yourself. 

HomleandSequirty
HomleandSequirty

First of all, Canada has invaded the US. They are claiming Machias Seal Island, despite the fact that this is undeniably US territory. I think it would be extreme to nuke Canada over this, but we certainly should be sending the Navy over with a carrier attack group and get some Marines on the island.

Daniel.L.W
Daniel.L.W

@BobWilliamKnight @nicolee_ng @IanBortner Well, in contrast lets JUST SAY our wonderful neighbors to the north Canada invaded us 60 years ago. They crossed the border started to attack us and kill and maim civilians that had nothing to do with America's military and war effort. Let's just say they pushed all the way to florida went town to town all across the country just killing innocent people. Grabbing women and forcing them to be prostitutes, then they form a biological unit and start to dissect and test diseases on live humans without pain killers. They killed 20,000,000 to 30,000,000 of Americans. Now this happened 60 years ago, your grandfathers and grandmothers died in that hell, and most of the Canadian population denies it. How would you feel? I have a feeling you'd be pretty butt hurt. That's how the Chinese feel. Cut them some slack man.......

Rio
Rio

@MikeWilliams @IanBortner @TadashigeTochifu @duduong Did anyone bother to do more indepth understaqnding of the power structure before WW2?  How about the warrior culture whose mores made such behavior acceptable.  How about the histories of the countries which have been frenemies for centuries.

  People of the current generations or not guilty of anything.  So there is no reason for them to be involved in the old generations fight. 

MikeWilliams
MikeWilliams

@IanBortner @TadashigeTochifu @duduong 

What proud history? They got nuked and surrendered unconditionally after the leaders wet themselves in fear. This was after claiming they would "fight to the last man". 

And god made it so they got "nuked"again in 2009, this time with by Tsunami. Karma is strong they say. 

What Japan is doing is comparable to Germany denying the holocaust. 

IanBortner
IanBortner

@TadashigeTochifu @duduong You insult the proud martial history of Japan by denigrating the memory of your own countrymen who fought to protect you from the Chinese enemy and were nuked  for doing their duty.  

JohnMayor
JohnMayor

@boots @JohnSheehan @BobWilliamKnight @jzc01 The Japs deserved to be nuked. They brought all this destruction and all these deaths upon themselves. Yes, it was the fault of Hirohito and his disgusting subordinates, but remember that Japanese still consider these criminals as heroes. How stupid can one be ?

boots
boots

@JohnSheehan @BobWilliamKnight @jzc01 have you ever discussed the feelings of people whose families were killed when the US dropped nukes on japan? Or the iraqis and afghanis displaced and/or killed because of US actions in the region?

DerekChen
DerekChen

@BobWilliamKnight @MikeWilliams You have not cited your sources either. I find it ironic that you would tell others to cite their sources when you have not cited your own. You are certainly not an Oxford graduate.

FrancoisSt-Pierre
FrancoisSt-Pierre

@BobWilliamKnight @Martial Bob est tout simplement ignorants et refuse d'accepter les faits et les diatribes solides et encore sur la façon dont le Japon devrait être pardonné. Quelque chose ne peut simplement pas être pardonné.

DerekChen
DerekChen

@Martial @BobWilliamKnight Ha,haha so true right? Bob is simply ignorant and refuses to accept solid facts and rants on and on about how Japan should be forgiven. Somethings simply cannot be forgiven. 

DerekChen
DerekChen

@BobWilliamKnight @Martial YOU ARE A STUBBORN RETARD WHO REFUSES TO ACCEPT EVIDENCE AND DECIDES TO RETORT IN A MANNER BY INSULTING OTHERS

JUST ACCEPT THE SOLID FACTS

Timer_1948
Timer_1948

The above post is for the benefit of the CLONE of BobWilliamknight.

Timer_1948
Timer_1948

@BobWilliamKnight 

To not agree is one thing, but to use your kind of posting in your "disagreement" denotes a  severe case of Moron. Get it together or get off the thread. 

JohnSheehan
JohnSheehan

@duduong @BobWilliamKnight China did not own the islands in the Philippines 300 years ago. Look at any world atlas published over 100 years ago. I have a German Atlas that is 136 years old. It clearly shows the now disputed islands as belonging to the Philippines. You need to study your history.

And Bob, Chinese aggression today does not equate to no Japanese war crimes against Chinese from 1933 to 1945. Unbelievable!

Martial
Martial

@BobWilliamKnight You are Oxford grad? Let's say its true, then it is another example of corrupting British education that creates unqualified grads.

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

@duduong @BobWilliamKnight so many lies , so little time .Tibetans were slaughtered raped tortured imprisond and their temples destroyed they hate chinas continuing oppression so bad they immolate.china did not own those islands 

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

@jzc01 my conjugation of verbs, syntax. sentence structure  spelling, use of colloquallisms and punctuation are not the issue here .your igorant laughable viewpoints are a reflection of an unstable and shallow mind 

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

@ROK @BobWilliamKnight @jzc01 japan apologised too but china kept up the blame  they murdered 1.2 million in Tibet and brutalizes Tibetans to this day  russia took the islands in the war fail history much?

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

@jzc01 im an Qxford grad .i forgot more than you''ll ever know . you still never answered my questios. dont shoot yer mouth off if u cant back up your argument

jzc01
jzc01

BobWilliamKnight: Go back to school. Get some education. Learn to read and write and pass at least 4th grade before reading a Time article. 


ROK
ROK

 @BobWilliamKnight @jzc01Firstly the article is focusing on Japan, not China. Secondly Japan is claiming rights to Dokdo/Takeshima, Kuril Islands even though they both historically been proven to belong to Korea and Russia respectively. Nazi Germany can and has apologized time and time again for there past indescrepencies, while Japan has remained more or less unmoved on the subject. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" George Santayana.

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

@jzc01 @BobWilliamKnight you cant answer my question and resort to personal attacks you prove u r a liar with 0 credibility . no the whole world knows and laffs lolol bob 3spacey 0 lolol

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

@JohnSheehan @BobWilliamKnight @duduong @thmak Japans apologized dozens of times .keep it real .now how many times did china apologize about Tibet Tiananmen square, organ harvesting etc china should mind its own business .every tie abe farts its a plot against china are you reallly that brainwashed and clueless ?kettle calling the pot black

Mad__Eagle
Mad__Eagle

@duduong @BobWilliamKnight @thmak In china ugly Mao persecuted (including murdered) millions of his own people, and those poor china guys still worship Mao's dead body today. very funny and very ridiculous. 

Timer_1948
Timer_1948

@BobWilliamKnight

Nahhhh..... I cannot believe you for a second, saying you're a historian. Even if it IS the truth, you are way out of line in your belief that it all should just be set aside, forgotten. If it is, we'll continue to commit such wholesale barbarities, and wink at others who do, only going after them for some political, or other sort of gain. NEVER FORGET is the slogan, and it needs to remain in place. There is Never an excuse for crimes against civilians in time of war. Yes, sadly enough there are going to be civilian casualties, and probably have been in every one since the Hebrews and Philistines were knocking heads. But in this case, we're talking about the concerted efforts made to murder, rape, or otherwise destroy a people. Japan, with their code of Bushido, found it pretty easy to kill Chinese in whatever way they could imagine, to herd American POW's into trenches they were forced to dig then set fire with flamethrowers. Made it kinda "funny" to them when they stuck various objects in the vaginas of Chinese women ion Nanking and surrounding cities and villages. They about made the Nazi's look like rough novices in the art of cruelty, but the Nazi's had their Own methods that they and their satellite buddies inflicted on just plain folks. It should be a Duty of any historian to keep these actions alive and not bury them. NEVER FORGET !

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

im not anything denier. bad assumption which show wrong losers are. i just dont wallow in the past pointing fingers at everyone. are you gonna bring this up in a thousand years? past is gone fool

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

loser talk lolol hyposcrisy what a joke coming from  a Tibetan brutalizer

JohnSheehan
JohnSheehan

@duduong @BobWilliamKnight @thmak "Hillbillies" is a term used for the Scotch/Irish settlers of the hills areas of Kentucky, Tennessee, North and South Carolina, etc. they were the supporters of King William, also known as King Billy. Your use of that name, in a derogatory way, is racist. (I think that your sue of the word was not an intentional racist act).

Bob is ignorant and racist. Just call him that.

JohnSheehan
JohnSheehan

@BobWilliamKnight @duduong @thmak Yes, Bob, it does. Germany has apologized for its actions, in a serious way. Japan's school system is still perpetuating the lies of the World War II Japanese government. Germany doesn't do that. Japanese "scholars" twist statistics and information in an attempt to distort the truth about Japan's war crimes.

You are like a Holocaust denier; only you are supporting Japan. If you were Jewish and your family was murdered by the Nazis, would you forget? The Chinese were treated as inferior by the Japanese. Millions of them were murdered in ways that even the Nazis considered out of bounds.

My family hasn't forgotten. My wife lost a grandfather and great-grandfather, who were tied up and bayoneted to death for doing absolutely nothing. My Godfather survived the Bataan Death March, the Hell Ships and imprisonment in Osaka.

For Abe to sit in a warplane with the numbers 731, is a way of boasting about Japan's war crimes, which weren't punished severely enough. Many Japanese war criminals led public and political lives through the 1960s. One example is Colonel Masanobu Tsugi, who became a public hero in Japan. He should have been executed as a war criminal.

Are you really that ignorant, or are you one of those sick trolls?

duduong
duduong

@BobWilliamKnight @duduong @thmak No, Germany has everything to do with this conversation. It is the perfect mirror to show the hypocrisy of hillbillies like you.

The thing that has nothing to do with YOUR discussion is logic and basic knowledge of history.

BobWilliamKnight
BobWilliamKnight

@jzc01 @BobWilliamKnight im an historian pal  .you are a perpetuator of blame this is why we got problems in bosnia and serbia problems with hutus and zulus. catholics and protestants let it go you are the fool pal grow up

jerome88
jerome88

@BobWilliamKnight @Daniel.L.W @nicolee_ng @IanBortner What do you think that you have annexed vast land of Mexico and now it is part of America?How do the Mexican feel about that?

Well, it is just imperialism policies as practiced by the U.S. You failed to air  the dirty linen such as  slavery, civic war fought where many people were killed and homes were destroyed to us.

jerome88
jerome88

@BobWilliamKnigh  What do you think that you have annexed vast land of Mexico and now it is part of America? How do the Mexican feel about that?


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