Kansas Spanking Bill Gets Spanked

It would've permitted up to 10 strikes on a child's behind

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Proposed legislation in Kansas that would have allowed teachers and parents to spank children hard enough to leave marks has died in a state House committee.

The bill would have given parents permission to spank their child’s clothed buttocks up to 10 times so that it left a mark like redness or bruising. It would have also allowed parents to bestow that right to teachers. The office of state Rep. John Rubin, who chairs the state House Corrections and Juvenile Justice Committee, said Wednesday that the bill won’t get a hearing, the Kansas City Star reports.

State Rep. Gail Finney, who had sponsored the legislation, complained on her website that the bill was incorrectly viewed as an attempt to legalize child abuse.

On her , Finney said that her bill was incorrectly reported as an attempt to legalize child abuse: “This legislation is intended to (i) provide guidance to state officials in the administrative and judicial branches; (ii) serve as a guideline to parents; and (iii) protect Kansas children from abuse. This legislation is not, as has been incorrectly reported, intended to legalize child abuse in Kansas.”

[Kansas City Star]

8 comments
IceToes
IceToes

Good grief. I can't imagine the sponsor of this insane legislation wouldn't have thought about the blowback when she offered it up for scrutiny. I think corporal punishment still has a very small and rare place, but I would hope parents and teachers would be more constructive and creative in punishing as a general rule. Certainly not a go-to daily option, particularly now that there is more understanding of behavior. What weirded me out about this was not only was it proposed as "guidance," it reads like it normalizes spanking (like other daily activities that are regulated). Wow.

blwpyrtv
blwpyrtv

A similar law was passed in Wyoming in 2002. Here is the amended language of Title 14-3-202:


(B)"Physical injury" means any harm to a child including but not limited to disfigurement, impairment of any bodily organ, skin bruising if greater in magnitude than minor bruising associated with reasonable corporal punishment, bleeding, burns, fracture of any bone, subdural hematoma or substantial malnutrition;

DanEJakes
DanEJakes

Can someone pull Rep. Finney aside and explain to her what bills are for? 

PhillyCannabis
PhillyCannabis

What kind of psycho would want to hurt their own child?

mrbomb13
mrbomb13

Only 10 spankings??  Wow, kids today have it easy!!


I was (deservedly) spanked God-only-knows how many times during my childhood in the 1990s, and would never characterized it as child abuse.  It was punishment justly earned for acting stupid and immature.  In my father's time, spankings were considered routine by all segments of society, and if the spanking was earned in school - believe me, the punishment would be far worse at home once the parents found out.


Thirty years ago, this bill would not have been considered controversial.  Nowadays, people have weaker spines.  Fantastic for our nation's youth.

MsAleze
MsAleze

@PhillyCannabis  Exactly. If someone were to physically strike a stranger, they'd be arrested. I can't understand why a parent -- a big person -- would want to physically and emotionally damage someone they love -- their child. People default to spanking because they can't control their rage, they have bad communication skills, they have no better, more constructive ideas about discipline. Hitting, striking out physically, only makes the spanker feel better, and only temporarily. It does nothing to really improve misbehavior and only makes the child feel like a piece of property. I feel badly for the children of adults who say "I was spanked, and it was fine." I was spanked, but I am proud to say I never, ever raised a hand to my children. My children grew up beautifully, with self-respect and respect for others. I think when you know better, you do better.

MsAleze
MsAleze

@mrbomb13  It takes stronger spine NOT to hit a child. Hitting someone small is cowardly and only makes the hitter feel better, and only for a little while. We know better now. We know that you can discipline without physical pain. 

mrbomb13
mrbomb13

@MsAleze  


I'm sorry, but that's a thoroughly modern attitude towards disciplining an unruly child.  The only alternative to spanking a misbehaving child is through talking to him/her.  Believe me, my parents talked to me God-only-knows how many times.


Yet, when verbal requests/commands failed to leave an impression, well, you can guess the rest.


I am better for it, and thank God that I was spanked.  Otherwise, I would not have ever shaped up, and would not have the success I have today. 


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