Six Killed in Police Cruiser Crash in Ohio

Driver and five passengers killed in collision; none believed to have been wearing seatbelts

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Six people were killed and a police officer was injured in a crash early Friday morning in a suburb just north of Columbus, Ohio.

An officer in Upper Arlington was responding to a robbery report when his police cruiser crashed into a car at an intersection, the Associated Press reports. Local media reports that the male driver and five female passengers — including a small child — were killed; police believe that none of them were wearing seatbelts.

The officer, who according to the head of the local police union had his lights and siren on at the time of the crash, was taken to a hospital with a serious head injury and is in stable condition.

[AP]

32 comments
JakeBauer
JakeBauer

Simple fact is, the police cruiser should not of been entering the intersection at those speeds.  In California all police go through a yearly qualifications and one of them is traffic and high speed pursuits, part of that training is training the officer to not do an excess of speed through an intersection.  20 30 miles tops until he is passed the intersection safely. Not to mention cops take tactical driving and he should of never hit the vehicle.

soindependent
soindependent

Maybe we should all wait for the facts to come out before we assign blame.  One fact seems clear and that is none of the deceased were wearing seat belts.  

waznotwas
waznotwas

in order to hit the car with the impact he did estimated speed at time of impact was at least 70mph or 103 feet per second - given that the average lane is 10 feet - so the average intersection is 20 feet wide - the victims car going through the intersection likely didn't have time to figure out where the sirens were coming from - this wasn't an unobstructed intersection there were buildings etc. in the way - so the victims had zero reaction time - the were moving say 25mph that would move them through the intersection  that is 36 fps so the total time to go through the interesection would be .8 seconds. my condolences to family.

KevinSchmidt
KevinSchmidt

People, its a traffic law that if a police car is going through an intersection (even if your light is green) the police car has the right of way.  It is the driver's responsibility to be vigilant for oncoming emergency vehicles.  I know I am always listening and watching going through an intersection. 

Hyperbole77
Hyperbole77

I guess it's easy to forget that a siren and lights do not comprise a physical barrier around the vehicle. Sometimes they don't even sound like or appear to be a siren and lights to others who are not paying attention.

RichardFlemming
RichardFlemming

What made the cop think he could blast through an intersection against a red light simply because he was a cop with a siren and lights on his car?  Evidently he had forgotten to switch on his brain.  As a result an entire family is dead, that should be at home enjoying life.  The police will try to focus the debate on the seat belt use, or lack thereof.  Wearing seat belts would not have prevented the cop from crashing into them.  The fault is entirely with the cop.

ozette11
ozette11

Cope and Robbers. It is not necessary for police Run red lights or make high speed chases. They are not saving the world. THai 6 innocent people.

oblio9090
oblio9090

Did the police slow at the intersection?  (obviously not)

Lights and sirens don't give the right to blow through a red light without first making sure the way is clear, if that is what happened here.

thenert
thenert

Interesting how the union representative emphasized that the officer was using his lights and siren as if that indemnfied him from any culpability. It does not. Police must drive with due regard for the motoring public and should enter intersections, particularly those that are regulated by traffic lights with extreme care and at a reduced speed. This is obviously not the case here. Then on top of that, the police add that the victims weren't likely wearing seatbelts as if to cast blame for their injuries to that instead of the high speed impact that was the real cause. As a retired police administrator I am saddened by this tragic loss of life, particularly when it was entirely preventable. Not only was the officer unable to aid in the robbery call, but his response resulted on the death of 6 innocent people.

gregdeichler
gregdeichler

Even lights and sirens shouldn't give you an excuse to blow a red light.

Police the police.

Back2Life
Back2Life

I'm sure the police officer will be found in now way responsible...I mean, are they ever? It was a robbery after all...

RichardFlemming
RichardFlemming

@soindependent 

That is not clear at all, only reported.  The one thing that is clear is 6 dead family members who broke no traffic or other relevant laws.

soindependent
soindependent

@waznotwas  I also would like to know where your got your information.  Also the family were not wearing seat belts which might have prevented so many deaths.  And sirens are not soft and could be heard from a distance and if you have no clue where it is coming from..safe drivers always pull over and stop..

RichardFlemming
RichardFlemming

Preposterous.  No one expects a cop car to be storming through an intersection against the light.  Your feeble attempt to shift the blame to the victims is rather pathetic.  

soindependent
soindependent

@RichardFlemming  again someone who does not have all the facts is assigning blame.  We do not know all the facts and I am sure it will be thoroughly investigated.  But there will be some assignment of degree of fault, because the occupants were not wearing seat belts.

trader
trader

@thenert we must be reading 2 different articles.

I read an article where the police were interviewed about a terrible accident and gave what little info they had.

where did you get all that other stuff?

lamorpa
lamorpa

@thenert 

Not completely innocent.  They broke the law not wearing seat belts, which might have also saved their lives.  I was nearly T-bones by an ambulance running a red light with lights, but no siren.  It is crazy that they think it is enough warning.

miserablebasterd
miserablebasterd

@Back2Life if they were breaking into your home or business I am sure your attitude would remain just as callous...

pumpkin89
pumpkin89

@RichardFlemming @soindependent The cop had the right of way plus the victims' vehicle entered the intersection on a red light and came to a stop in the middle of the intersection. None of the victims' were wearing seat belts so they are the ones @ fault not the cop.

Aeroman08
Aeroman08

@RichardFlemming @soindependent You're wrong. The victims' vehicle entered the intersection on a red light and came to a stop in the middle of the intersection. While he may have intended to reverse, or maybe saw the police cruiser and froze, what's clear is that it was the victims' vehicle that is at fault for the accident. The police cruiser entered the intersection just as his green light turned yellow. He had the right of way, lights and sirens aside.

Aeroman08
Aeroman08

@RichardFlemming The victim's vehicle ran the red light. The officer had a green/yellow light. Your feeble attempt to pretend to know what happened is rather pathetic.

RichardFlemming
RichardFlemming

I am getting my facts from this account and a couple of other credible ones of the incident. They are prima facia, not speculative. I am not assigning fault. Only a judge can do that, but I am expressing my opinion as to who was at fault. 

RichardFlemming
RichardFlemming

@lamorpa 

So the penalty for failing to wear seat belts, if that is the truth, which we do not know for certain, is death by cop?  Are you saying that if they had the belts on the cop would not have hit them?  Sounds to me like a village somewhere is missing its idiot. 

MichaelSmith7
MichaelSmith7

@lamorpa Even if they weren't wearing seat-belts, it does not give the officer the right to blow a red light without looking both ways.

RichardFlemming
RichardFlemming

@miserablebasterd @Back2Life 

That is absurd. I doubt that anyone would trade the lives of 6 people just to possibly save a few seconds for the cops to arrive. In any event the robbery had already taken place it appears from the account of the incident.  

lamorpa
lamorpa

@MichaelSmith7

Not completely innocent.  They broke the law not wearing seat belts, which might have also saved their lives.


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