Undercover Cop Defends Himself in NYC Biker Attack Case, As Reports Cast Doubt

Lawyer says off-duty detective rode with bikers chasing SUV, but didn't see brutal attack

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Update: An undercover, off-duty New York Police Department police officer has been arrested in connection with last week’s brutal beating of an SUV driver, CBS reports.

An undercover, off-duty New York police detective riding with a pack of bikers who brutally beat the driver of an SUV last month did not see the man get assaulted, his lawyer said Monday. But reports on Tuesday morning cast doubt on his claims of innocence.

The incident made national news after video of the motorcyclists chasing the SUV, which had run over one of the bikers after they swarmed the car, went viral on YouTube. The detective joined the bikers in chasing the SUV up a New York City highway because he thought there had been a hit-and-run, but his lawyer said he was not on the scene when the bikers allegedly smashed Alexian Lien’s window and beat him senseless in front of his two-year old daughter, the Associated Press reports.

Reports by both NBC News and the New York Post pushed back against the cop’s claims on Tuesday morning. Both news outlets, citing anonymous law enforcement sources, reported that video shows the undercover officer at the scene of the assault. NBC News reports the officer did not appear in the video to join in the assault, but the Post reports the officer was pounding on the victim’s vehicle.

While it is customary for off-duty police officers to intervene if they see a crime, it’s less common for undercover officers to do so. The detective was conscious of blowing his cover, which could have resulted in suspension or dismissal, his lawyer said. He was not carrying a gun or badge.

Four bikers have been charged in the assault. The detective has been stripped of his gun while internal affairs investigates.

[AP]

52 comments
MariaClaudiaLennox
MariaClaudiaLennox

Mr. Bloomberg I have lived in NYC for over 10 years, and for the first time I feel compelled to write.

I was horrify by what happened to Mr. Alexian Lien, a father who was attacked in a brutal way by a motorcycle mob where police members where involved in upper Manhattan in front of his wife and baby.

How can this be acceptable!?!?!?

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!?!?

What kind of message are you going to send to all those gangs in the city?

I always knew that NY was unsafe but this is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE.

I ask you to ensure that they bikers fill the full weight of our justice system.

PLEASE... do something about it!

BrianJLG
BrianJLG

I'm sure the thug cop will get off, despite the fact he was helping the other thugs try to smash in the back window - where the 2 year old was, by the way.

mchchicago78
mchchicago78

I don't understand why BBC, NYT, and Time are only barely covering this story. I think this is headliner stuff. It really matters people!!! We have delinquent cops riding with convicted criminals in biker gangs assaulting citizens and their families and then covering it up. ffs, that's about as bad as it gets

mchchicago78
mchchicago78

that's pretty weak coverage. I"m just one dumb guy at my laptop and i've been able to conclusively verify facts that are CRITICAL to this story that readers would want to know. very biased coverage it seems like....trying to make either the bikers or cops less culpable for whatever reason. weird

PoppaCharlie
PoppaCharlie

Ah, yes.  To protect and serve.  Perhaps he forgot.

chimney
chimney

The USA is marching greatly toward the United State of Big Mexican 

BillEvan
BillEvan

between blowing the cover and saving a life, which one should one chose? Hero risk their life to save other, coward will not!

michaelt513
michaelt513

Misele should be charged with False Imprisonment.   Not only did he placed his bike in front of the SUV, he stool in front of the SUV to prevent in front moving also.  In this case, he prevented the family from fleeing a life threatening situation by standing in front of the SUV.  

As for Cruz, that Scum deserves the Grand Jury thrown at him.  Did anyone noticed when he was speaking on ABC that he RARELY looked up to the camera when he spoke, he was looking down almost the entire time, every time he spoke out.  That right there is a SIGN OF A LIAR.  He acted like such a tough guy when he was confronting the SUV but now with maximum jail time being potentially thrown at him with the Grand Jury getting involved, he is begging for pity on TV and lying through his teeth.

And like others,  I can't believe some of the comments on here supporting the thugs.  I guess we should put you in the SUV's driver situation where you stopped after a accident and next thing you know.  The mobs start pounding and damaging your car, and slashing your tires.  I guess it's ok to you and your just waiting for the mob thugs to pulled you out, hurt you kid and gang raped your wife do you then think it was ok the flee after.  I don't know about you but 99% of the fathers out there with family in the car would flee for for safety too and the law stands with them, which is evident why the SUV driver hasn't been charged with anything.



 


skid2013
skid2013

Can't believe some of dumbass comments made here by people supporting these yahoos.  Yeah, let blame on the suv driver who should have gotten out of the way in the first place because they need three lanes to ride.  He shouldn't run over a few bikers blocking the suv while letting a few nice bikers slash the tires and bang the car with their helmets.  They were just letting out some steam.  The stupid SUV driver should  have read their minds that nothing will happen to his family.   These riders are individuals who want to part of a group that do flash mob version on bikes.  They aren't part of a hardcore bike club like the Hell Angels.   They are just part of mob.  It's different.  Unlike these yahoos riding everywhere, the Hell Angels ride in tight formation, never brothering motorists.  The Hell Angels don't bash some poor idiot in front of the mother and her kid.  These yahoos are lucky that they weren't dealing with a bike gang member in the SUV.        

CharlesSeals
CharlesSeals

fear and stupidity runz this country cause people are too dumb to think for themselves or not make snap judgements...that why this happened...not all bikers are criminals and its thinking like that that caused all of this...your stupid fear over nothing is dumb.....the suv driver should have stayed clam and nothing would have happend...but no stupidity and fear in america rules the day again

Not_Right
Not_Right

 One cop undercover, investigating a bunch of nice, innocent bikers, and the rest of the corrupt cops are part of the "gang," I am sure the truth is they are just motorcycle lovers caught in an unfortunate situation. We all know the old saying of' birds of a feather flock together' is hog wash. All the videos online of corrupt cops in every town and state in America tell us they are all just being framed while the words coming from their mouths and their actions are just being misinterpreted, their egos in check they are simply protecting and serving the public.

From the video I see a bunch of organ donors, please don't use any of the grey matter.

RusselJames
RusselJames

He fled when they surrounded him, started banging on his windows, and slashed his tire. In addition the biker who was tapped was instigating further down the road before the camera footage shows. What it DOES show, is that particular biker was riding about a foot or so off of the RR front driver-side tire looking into the windshield of the RR and then gassing it up to move in front of the RR and then turning his complete body to look behind him. He knew where he was on the road and anybody who rides or has an understanding of universal forces knows that a bike will decelerate quicker than a fully metal suv. Especially if the brakes arent applied or any other means of braking indication.

StephenLeitner
StephenLeitner

The original incident was a biker stopping right in front of the SUV forcing him to hit the bike's tire. That's where it all started. 


CharlesSeals
CharlesSeals

lets get this stright the suv driver was unprovoked yet he felt it nesscary to run over 4 people and he is the inncocent one...that is ignorant..the suv driver attempted murder he got what he deserved and he is lucky they didnt kil him...the suv driver needs to be charged with attempted vehicular homicide

Hyperbole77
Hyperbole77

"bikers allegedly smashed Alexian Lien’s window"

Really? "Allegedly"? Even with a clear video, we still have to use lawyer-speak?

KS2Problema
KS2Problema

Let's get this straight:

 " The detective joined the bikers in chasing the SUV up a New York City highway because he thought there had been a hit-and-run [...] ' -- the bumping of the tire of the motorcycle that very clearly cut in front and intentionally stopped dead in front of the slowly moving SUV -- but the same detective "couldn't" intervene to keep an innocent man from being beaten senseless in front of his wife and child?

He's an NYPD detective and his alibi can't even pass the basic laugh test.

Pathetic. 

AultonWhite
AultonWhite

Since right now they are only arresting the bikers, I hope they also arrest Alexian Lien for assaulting, leaving the scene of an accident, Hit and run, attempted murder with a weapon (the SUV).

Hyperbole77
Hyperbole77

To protect himself and serve his own interests.

mchchicago78
mchchicago78

@CharlesSeals hey chuckie, i think if you weren't a loud mouthed, arrogant, know -it-allwhite boy with way too much bluster and not enough smarts, you'd look at all the video on the web, the frame by frame and the witnesses who stopped the beating and realize how stupid you are making yourself and bikers sound. and if you are so jaded as to not care about your words and others lives, I think ppl see that and will alter their feeling/thoughts PRECISELY in the way you would not agree w/ based on your comments. by trolling, i think ppl see the evidence and realize your trolling (as with other trolls) is pure fiction, based on fantasy and lies and clearly pushing a biased agenda. if you dare....if you are not a patent poser and hypocrite, you can go to Justice for Jay Meezee or Justice for Alexian Lien and TRY to enlighten yourself. i pity you

Not_Right
Not_Right

@CharlesSeals @CharlesSealsStupidity is right... do you think it was the 2 year olds idea to take mom and dad for a drive to look for bikers to annoy and start an incident? Stupidity is a group or "gang" of 20 year olds doing stunts on bikes on the interstate where the speed limit is 70. I have witnessed this too many times in the last year. Add old white men who once were stupid 20 year olds who are now 50 and you have even more stupidity. Fear of running over one of these idiots doing stunts and the adrenaline that kicks in to protect us from these situations of stupidity is all the fear that this amounts too. As far as bikers being criminals the video shows every single one of them breaking the law in some capacity. While trying to stand up for your fellow man is admirable many of these bikers, who probably aren't stupid, didn't realize their own idiot biker friends created the mess and like sheep followed along to ID the SUV and likely not to beat a man and trash his truck. And now to find out the undercover cop is lying about what he saw and did... who would have thought!?!

RockTrimlove
RockTrimlove

@CharlesSeals Honestly, I think you just proved your own point.

This country is full of people who believe they are smart enough to post comments worthy of public attention, but then the content of their comment is so devoid of logic that it wastes the time of anyone who reads it.

Real biker gangs don't go out on sunny weekend afternoons riding through high-traffic areas creating conflict with civilians.

This story is about amateur clowns getting run over because they cannot handle their bikes or their emotions. End of story.

mchchicago78
mchchicago78

@CharlesSeals what is up with all you people who are dense on the fact that the biker gang created a situation for Lien and his family in which he had to escape.and by wheezey meezee putting his body in front of the car as a part of the barrier preventing escape, Lien has the right to engage in INSURRECTION against those that would endanger him and falsely imprison him. you aren't doing these gangbangers or the biker gang community any favors

JonRogen
JonRogen

@CharlesSeals   ......and?  I did see the link that you've provided, thank you.  It just reinforces that Alexien, his wife and baby are the victims and that J. Weezee is the victim of his own stupidity and ego, wanting to be involved in a beat down.  He went from helping a "downed motorcyclist" (not down) to helping "diffuse the situation".  ...Only he went to the wrong part of the car.  He hung around in front while the other cures for Cancer were slashing tires.


You might want to consider enrolling in a school.  You might not have the brain cells to absorb the material, or to excel, but maybe watching others good behavior might have an effect that you could be functional?  You can do it.  I have faith in you.

RockTrimlove
RockTrimlove

@StephenLeitner I think you are referring to the video. If so, that is approximately where the video began. But don't you think it is a little naïve to presume to know the full context of the story from the video. Are you not at all curious about what happened before the video began?

CharlesSeals
CharlesSeals

@StephenLeitner @CharlesSeals  yes i have but you pricks dsaying the usv driver is innocent is retarded  hes is just as guilty and no matter what he proved the attack he woulda just got talked to and it would only be words but as usual sheep are sheep and blind and dumb and scared...i deal with bikers everyday real bikers not some fairys on crouch rockets if those had been real bikers even then it woulda just been words....you people are driven by fear iv watched the video tons of times and i see no violence from the bikers untill he runs them over...

you people are just sticking to some lame judgement tht all bikers are evil criminals the same as the suv driver did....snap judgements are what caused this the suv driver is guilty too and if you think otherwise your discriminating everyone here is guilty

RockTrimlove
RockTrimlove

@CharlesSeals Yes, charge him with whichever crime you, with your vast knowledge of the law, see fit. Then he can assert a defense that he acted reasonably in light of his apprehension of imminent harm to himself or others

Hyperbole77
Hyperbole77

On what planet was he unprovoked? 'Cause here on earth, we have eyes.

BrianJLG
BrianJLG

@AultonWhite He had every right to mow any of them down, since they were attempting to kill him and his family - including his 2 year old.

mchchicago78
mchchicago78

@AultonWhite i hope i hope i hope. the best thing about reading these ludicrous troll comments is to know, with full confidence, that they are 100% wrong. Let it be recorded that i am declaring: Lien will NOT be charged for assault, leaving the scene, hit and run attempted murder with a weapon. 

I think you are allowing your fear of hard-working asians and the media propaganda about China to cloud your judgment. that's my guess. i can't figure a better reason for you to be just so ignorant and embarassingly uninformed. I'm not saying you can't be right, but all you troll are just barking. barking the same thing. you pro-biker, pro-black, pro-cop fanatics are just barking and unable to come up with a real argument. i hope your not a soldier, bc that would really scare me that  they'd give you a weapon with your questionable mind and ethics


JohnSmith32
JohnSmith32

@AultonWhite Poor bikers.  Looking for some sympathy?  Or maybe "respect".  I heard that word bandied about by one of the cohorts or participants in this mob criminal plan.  You dont get any respect...you dont respect the rules that the rest of society follows.  And you dont want "respect", you want fealty and fear.  You wont get it.  Keep trying this stuff.  There are way more big SUVs than 400lb bikes.  Scare enough of them and life expectancy for sport bike riders will decline.  Too bad...I used to ride (Ninja 900, GSXR750 and ZX1000) but this was in the mid 90's.  I never tried to scare other motorists.

Openminded1
Openminded1

@AultonWhite You are a dummy none of those charges would stick and no prosecutors office would even attempt to push that case into a court room. No police officer with the facts and video would arrest him for anything. What he did his paramount to self defense with fear for his life and that of his family. That is called mitigating circumstances. Stick to what ever it is you do know if anything at all. You know nothing of the law or police procedure.

CharlesSeals
CharlesSeals

@AultonWhite  exactly the suv driver was not proved they nonly went up to talk to him its clear as day in the ideo...his fear lead him to try and kill 5 or more bikers by running them over he should be charged asap...

KS2Problema
KS2Problema

@AultonWhite - Anyone with eyes can see the truth of the situation as revealed in the helmet cam vids. I can't imagine what your problem is. 

I rode a motorcycle for years and lost two inches of one leg to a careless driver. It changed my life hugely. I've never been the same. I love motorcycles and have enormous sympathy for responsible motorcycle riders.

But these were not responsible riders. They were clearly thugs bent on bike 'wilding' -- and the evidence is clear in the videos.

Faced with the same threat to my family, I would have done exactly the same thing.

spadez666
spadez666

What would they arrest him for? Defending his family , i hope you get attacked and have to defend yourself then you'll understand the law.

Jake1114
Jake1114

@AultonWhite I hope Alexian Lien is able to sue the bikers for medical costs and damages I also hope that all of the bikers who stood by and did nothing face criminal charges for aiding in the assault, and  wrongful imprisonment. I'm in dismay at the actions of the officers, including the undercover detective. There is absolutely no excuse for their cowardice and passivity. They had not only a moral, as everyone else does, but also a legal obligation to intervene whether on and off duty. The injured biker, if he has any legal case it should be against the other bikers, for their actions that lead to the situation. I hope the Lein family is able to get back to a normal life, despite the crimes committed against them.

Openminded1
Openminded1

@Raddy2013 Most likely he is lying.     he has to Cha , "cover his ass" he wants to keep his job. he does not want to get a suspension either. Its called self preservation. he was between a rock and  a hard place with his undercover  assignment being blown. But Only if the assignment was reference to the bikers in question or a certain individual   within the biker group. Which appears was not the case. The officer has a duty to step in if someones life was in danger or a violent felony was in progress.   he he was off duty and these bikers were just friends of his , he does not have a leg to stand on.  And he will have a problem with Internal affairs .                                                                                                               

mchchicago78
mchchicago78

@RockTrimlove @StephenLeitner I AM curious. I am curious about why each different biker has a different story that they are chasing the SUV. Then I'd be curious why there is yet to be a single piece of video or other evidence to prove it in the way that we have video for all the exonerating evidence. Mind you that this is self-incriminating video entirely in the gang's control. Why is there no video of the bottle? or the first collision according to the lying bitch lawyer? or the second one? Aren't you curious why all of the video that would support your agenda happens to be missing? coincidence? IF they recorded hours of footage that day before hand, as well as the chase after, how come they just happen to not record the part in the middle, EXACTLY when Lien is supposedly instigating some kind of action that would justify this vigilante riot. please please please inform yourself on this. it's important

Openminded1
Openminded1

@RockTrimlove @StephenLeitner I can tell you, the bikers were being arrogant and taking up all lanes messing with people i cars and trucks. the victim just wanted to get by and the bikers were not having that. that is were started.

mchchicago78
mchchicago78

@CharlesSeals @StephenLeitner Hey chuck, I swear I was totally biker neutral before all this began. Never been bothered by a biker, never been hit by one, never rode one myself. But you and the pro-biker fanatics are making otherwise reasonable ppl to take sides against you. I don't have anything against bikers, but i have a problem with ppl like you being willfully ignorant and blinding themselves to other ppls suffering at the hands of evil men (not evil bc they are black or bc they are bikers but bc they'll endanger women and children). you and many other trolls on here are lying. Just like that shameful family and I've had it. so speaking for myself, i'm really getting to see how nutty you guys are. You circle the wagons like a GANG to support strangers you don't know accused of heinous acts..........over a hobby you share. bc you share a similar recreational activity, you are willing to abase yourself and call for more punishment on an innocent man.


The bikers did start THIS INCIDENT. no prejudice, no judgment. THESE bikers are bad and they need to get the max. calm down and think. if not, you and your mother should take another romantic trip together to Aruba...re-kindle that flame you white boys have for your moms and sisters and pretty nieces. 

don't take it personally :)

mchchicago78
mchchicago78

@CharlesSeals @AultonWhite you guys kinda talk like a comic book villain or a character off law and order. almost scripted and laughable predictable. Let me guess: Alex Lien intended to kill as many bikers as possible but didn't right? and you know that right? and of course you can prove that right? I can hear you trolls saying yes to each question, so let's just wait. I say we start taking bets.

TerryConklin
TerryConklin

@spadez666 Your take on the situation is messed up. When the SUV took off and crushed the bikers ahead, it was only after it rear ended a bike that slowed ahead. The "attack" came later after the bikers chased him and caught him. Hew was not "defending" anyone at that point. Even the cop at the scene thought (correctly) that they were chasing a fleeing ht-and-run driver. Their subsequent beating was overkill vigilanteism surely, illegal and mean but understandable and it was ended by a 50 year old bystander. The driver was reported to not even need medical treatment unlike the guy he crushed with his SUV.

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