You’re More Likely to Get Punched to Death in Texas, and 5 Other Surprising Crime Stats

Highlights from the FBI's latest report on criminal activity in America

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Each year, the FBI collects crime reporting from more than 18,000 city, county, state, university and tribal agencies and pulls the data together in one huge report. Here are six surprising trends from 2012.

Big city crime’s got nothing on the minor league of American metropolises. Chicago and New York, two of America’s largest cities, led the country in total homicides, but they had lower per capita homicide rates than the worst locales. In Chicago,there was one homicide for every 5,417 residents, while in New York, there was one for every 19,784 people. New Orleans, meanwhile, had one homicide for every 1,880 people; Detroit had one for every 1,832, and nearby Flint, Michigan, topped the list with 63 homicides among roughly 101,000 residents, or one homicide for every 1,613 people.

The South is America’s most violent region. The sixteen states and one district in the Southeast (Maryland, Delaware, Washington, D.C., Virginia, West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma and Texas), make up America’s largest region with just over 37 percent of the population. It is also the most violent. The Southeast accounted for nearly 497,000 violent crimes, 41 percent of all reported violent crime in the U.S. The South also led the country with the highest violent crime compared to population, followed by the West, and Midwest, and finally the Northeast.

Texans can (and apparently will) kill you with their bare hands. Texas has a well-earned reputation as a gun friendly state with more firearms dealers–8,500 according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives–than any other state. But firearms only accounted for 65 percent of homicides for which additional data is available in Texas in 2012. That’s below other states like Illinois (86 percent), Michigan (76 percent) and California (69 percent). What gives? Maybe it’s what we like to call the Chuck Norris Effect: Texas leads the country in the number of people (101) killed by “hands, fists and feet.” California–which clocked some 700 more homicides than Texas–was second in that category with 87.

It was a better year for jewel burglars than car thieves. Last year, thieves made off with more than $15.5 billion worth of stuff, down from just over $17 billion five years ago. In 2012, theft victims lost fewer cars ($3.8 billion worth, down from $5.6 billion in 2008), TVs and stereos ($756 million, down from $966 million in 2008) and livestock ($15.6 million, down from $22.8 million in 2008). But thieves made off with $300 million more in jewelry and precious metals than they did last year.

Love triangles are deadlier than bar brawls and snipers. Last year, 82 people were killed in alcohol-fuled brawls, 58 people were killed in narcotics-induced fights, 148 people were killed in an argument over money or property, and 3,085 people were killed in other disputes, all the lowest figures in four years. But 95 people were killed as a result of romantic triangles, an increase of 10 from 2011. Also on the list: One person was killed by a sniper and four were killed by being thrown out of windows.

Intoxicated people keep the police very busy. In 2012, police arrested 12.1 million people across the United States. Property crimes accounted for 1.6 million arrests; more than half a million people were arrested for violent crimes, with another nearly 1.2 million arrested for lesser assaults. But drugs and alcohol detentions were the most common. Drug abuse violations accounted for more than 1.5 million arrests; nearly 1.3 million people were arrested for driving under the influence, while another half a million people were arrested for drunkenness and more than 400,000 for violating liquor laws.

145 comments
chieppa
chieppa

"Flint, Michigan, topped the list with 63 homicides among roughly 101,000 residents, or one homicide for every 1,613 people." No mention of Camden, NJ?  67 murders with only 77,665 people? That is 1 murder for every 1,159 people. 

chicygnistation1
chicygnistation1

The most important crime stat to be aware of is the Dangerous Baboon-to-White Person ratio.

Areas with a disproportionately large number of simians have demonstrated that whites are more likely to be attacked, mauled, robbed, beaten, raped, and killed.

neotechni
neotechni

-The South is America’s most violent region.
-Texans can (and apparently will) kill you with their bare hands.

Title is misleading. It said surprising. Those don't surprise me.

GregWiens
GregWiens

America and Canada are the two most similar nations on the planet to each other culturally and economically.  

Canada has a population of 34 million.  There 543 murders last year.   

Chicago has a population of under 4 million and it had 503 murders last year!  

The difference? Gun laws.  America is awash with hand guns and assault weapons and large ammunition clips.  

Canada has the highest rate of hunting guns ownership (shot guns and hunting rifles) in the civilized world, more than America per capita.  But hand guns are greatly regulated and assault style weapons are illegal.  

As a result gun murder rates are 800% lower than America.  

What can America learn from the most similar country to them in the world:  

Very few people are killed by hunting rifles or shot guns.  No need for regulation

Hand guns are the greatest killer of people of all guns.  They needed to be heavily regulated.

Assault style weapons are only good for killing people.  Ban them. 

The results will not be seen for decades because that is how long it will take to get rid of all the  hand guns and assault weapons off the market.

Also as a sub note, 80% of the hand guns used to kill people in Canada are illegal guns smuggled in from America.  

monkey3man
monkey3man

@chicygnistation1 While the crime rate is higher for minorities, you shouldn't discriminate against them all (because many are fine people) and refer to them as "dangerous baboons."

RShultz210
RShultz210

@neotechni So what? Anyone can kill with his bare hands. It's just a matter of where to hit and how hard. I could teach you to kill with one punch in about an hour. This isn't news no matter how sensational it sounds. It's just fact. You can kill somebody twice your size with one exactly placed and well timed blow.

Robine
Robine

@neotechni 

Half of all blacks in the US live in the South, so no, the former is not surprising at all. 

FalconD.Stormvoice
FalconD.Stormvoice

@GregWiens You're sort of a lying liar that lies.

Your entire argument hinges on hunting rifles not being able to kill people almost as easily as handguns (know what hunting rifles are used for? Hunting; which is a form of killing) and omitting the fact that America actually has a really low murder rate outside of the cities that have racial integration problems. Texas, having the highest gun ownership in the nation, has a lower rate of gun death than California.

There's just no comparison between Canada and America. Canada is literally a place that accepts a town of 23,000 people (Whitehorse) to be a capitol city for one of it's Territories. 


http://people.howstuffworks.com/strict-gun-laws-less-crime1.htm

http://theacru.org/acru/harvard_study_gun_control_is_counterproductive/

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

http://nation.time.com/2013/09/19/youre-more-likely-to-get-punched-to-death-in-texas-and-5-other-surprising-crime-stats/

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/america-doesnt-have-a-gun-problem-it-has-a-gang-problem/

http://www.rense.com/general32/nine.htm


Now go and lie no more. Or just go.


rfaction
rfaction

Your argument is based on erroneous assumptions and demonstrably false. You wrongly exaggerate the similarites between the USA and Canada, the USA has the highest rate of mental illness in the world (and by a wide margin) and also a far (nearly double at 15% vs. 9%) higher poverty rate than Canada; criminological studies have shown conclusively that poverty and mental illness are far more strongly correlated to crime than the strictness of gun control, which has been shown to be almost completely irrelevant (this is why countries like Brazil, the Bahamas, or Russia have strict gun laws and low rates of gun ownership but far higher murder rates than the USA). Fact of the matter is, even if you were to subtract EVERY gun murder from American murder statistics, you'd still have significantly more murder in the USA than Canada.  So please, spare the speaking until you actually know something on the subject.

naziwillfarrell
naziwillfarrell

@GregWiens Forget that canada is 80% white and america is only 50% white. Forget that the areas of the the states with the most violence are the states with the most minorities. Forget that most gun crimes don't involve assault weapons. Forget that crime has sky rocketed since the 1960's when the "counter culture movement" changed every aspect of our society. Forget that that movement was funded and pushed by the Frankfurt school marxists who own the media and pushed the same zeitgeist down our throats with movies like Guess who's coming to dinner and shows like Roots. Forget that history is written by the victor and that we beat the nazi's. Forget everything you know, it'll a lie anyway.

naziwillfarrell
naziwillfarrell

@GregWiens You're ignoring the other major factor, demographics. Canada is 80% white, america is 50% white and the majority of these gun deaths occur in the southern states which are far more heavily integrated. 

stilltheman
stilltheman

@GregWiens

 Murder rates by state:

Texas: 1960: 824 while in 2012: 1,444 (the state with the most guns)

Florida: 1960: 527 while in 2012: 1,009 (the state with the most concealed gun permits)

Pathfinder
Pathfinder

@GregWiens Really, we need to ban people who's ideas are different than mine.

First we will start by putting stars on the widows (just to identify the wrong doers, in my opinion anyway.). Then as are moral compass circles the bowl, we will break their windows, and collect the insurance as we have such as good program worth expanding 

Why do you think that what I described above did not work the last time?

Think about this just for a minute. There are over 3 million AR-15s/M-4s in civilian hands in the United States alone, and we are talking about abuses of half a dozen (and apparently not even in this case), Lots of AR-15 in Canada also will no ill effect worth even reporting. There is something deeply perverse and morally bankrupt about punishing. discriminating, and generally treating firearms owners as somehow defective and that we all should be given a prostate exam to evaluate our brain activity

As a firearms owner and AR-15 owner, I am tired of being treated as if I were black and living in the Southern United States 150 years ago which frankly is not a very pleasant feeling. We are tried of being blamed, accused, and being "rounded up" in the media as "one of the usual suspects" Go burn a cross on someone else's lawn

"Gun Violence"? Really? It sounds like one of those 1970s B movies in which the car, an inanimate object like a firearm becomes possessed and evil and then goes around running people down. The script was a B movie then and it is a B movie now as it relates to firearms legislation.

Face it, there are evil, crazy, and criminal people in the world which is made up of Sheep, Sheep dogs and Sheppards, and Wolves. When you have large populations of sheep to varying degrees (some of whom could not defend themselves out of a wet paper bag or worse would refuse to because its the States "responsibility" -dangerous dreamer), then you must have the Sheep dogs and Sheppards .Man figured this out going back to the Bible. What gives now? In this reality one has to have Sheppards and sheep dogs and it is physically impossible for the state to provide them for everyone 24/7 Here is a another "obsolete word" PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

Openminded1
Openminded1

@GregWiens as a 30 year police veteran here in states now retired, i agree with you. But our problem is the right to bear arms. that law has to be changed in way that allows americans with out felony arrest and mental issues to have certain weapons for hunting etc. And only law enforcement and military to have assault weapons. The problem is the gun lobbyist of course the NRA with there deep pockets, that by the way end up in the pockets of many of are so called honorable senators and members of congress. And lets not forget Canada has been dealing with there gone laws for a while now and where you compare the 34 million in Canada to the over 300 million here it will take time as you said and almost a an act of God not Congress to change the law here.

lookinglogically
lookinglogically

@GregWiens Population Density destroys your entire argument. I did like your argument, but the facts are that if you group more people in a smaller area, more bad things happen.

Lonecia
Lonecia

@Robine @neotechni

Having grown up in the South, I learned to fear white people, especially the men.  They have that "God is on my side" type of self righteousness that all terrorists swear by. 

The God-fearing whites are the worst.  They sure as heck believe they are blessed for their hate, no matter who it is directed towards.

Oh and by the way, I am a white woman.  We had almost as much to fear from the white men as the blacks.






GregWiens
GregWiens

@FalconD.Stormvoice @GregWiens 

Falcon, your the sort of person who sees plain statistical evidence and because you have a preconceived notion beforehand you cannot accept when the evidence points in another direction than your thinking.  

92% of all human gun murders are done with a hand gun.  Why?  Because hand guns are concealable. 

99.99% of deer deaths are done with hunting rifles.  Why?  Because hand guns are only build with one thing in mind, killing people at close range. 

Did you also know that 90% of the population of Canada lives within a narrow 100 mile band stretching across the country? That Toronto is the fourth largest city in North America and it has the lowest murder rate in North America? 

Your analogy of comparing Whitehorse as a primary example of how Canada and the US are so different.  Our urban areas are very similar and our rural areas are very similar.  The difference is Canada's rural areas are larger and less populated.  I custom harvested in the US and the rural Midwest US is the same mentality of people as the rural of Midwest Canada. 

I am a born again fundamentalist Christian who has lived in both countries and Canada's gun laws make hunting fun and easy and makes their cities safer.  



Openminded1
Openminded1

@rfaction canada can not be compared to The USA moron you have what maybe 34 million people, we have that and more in the tri state area of NY and in LA combined.

Peggysmom
Peggysmom

@stilltheman @GregWiens Florida's population went from less than 4 million to 16 million in that time period. You just killed your own point.

GregWiens
GregWiens

@stilltheman @GregWiens

I missed your point.  

Canada 34 million - 543 murders or 6 for every 100,000 people .  

Texas 26 million and 1444 murder with 18 murders for every 100,000 - over 3 times the murder rate of Canada?

Florida 19 million and 1009 murders with with 19 murders per 100,000 people and over also over 3 times the murder rate of Canada?   

Peggysmom
Peggysmom

@Pathfinder @GregWiens Yeah, you're "Just" like a slave living in the south 150 years ago. And I'm just as good looking as Angelina Jolie and stronger than a Navy SEAL, too.

GregWiens
GregWiens

@Pathfinder @GregWiens

Pathfinder, I am a born again evangelical Christian that is a dual citizen of both Canada and US.  I am the lead pastor of a large rural fundamentalist evangelical church in Northern Saskatchewan.  I hunt ducks and geese and deer.  I own hunting guns.  

I am a fundamentalist Christian.  

You talk about taking personal responsibility, that that is exactly what you are not doing by owning a gun that's main purpose it to kill people.  While you don't use it in that way to many people do.  If it was stolen from you it can and will be used for the purpose that it was created for.

My guns were created to make 1 shot at a wild animal so I and my family can eat it.  If stolen my gun can be used in crimes but not very effectively.  My magazines only hold the maxim of five bullets.  They have long barrels so they cannot be concealed.  If cut of they are not very accurate.   There is a huge difference between the two.

The constitution was written during a time when all guns were like my guns.  The constitution was written to protect my right to own the type of gun that I own.  You guns did not exist.  

And now lets talk about what I had the biggest problem with what you said, and it had little to do with guns, 

"I am tired of being treated as if I were black and living in the Southern United States 150 years ago."

You sir are a racist bigot and you need to get on your knees and ask forgiveness from Jesus Christ for your attitude towards your fellow man.  Jesus was not a white man, he was a brown skinned Jew from the middle east, and color has Nothing to do with anything.  

I will pray for you as I go and shoot Canadian Geese tomorrow morning.  



RShultz210
RShultz210

@Openminded1 @GregWiens Yeah right Sherlock, take away every firearm that has any self defense value so you fascists can treat us like slaves while the criminal treats us like livestock! You are the reason I would shoot you or any of your still employed compatriots as quickly as I would shoot a criminal, you trigger-happy Neanderthal!

GregWiens
GregWiens

@Openminded1 @GregWiens 

I agree with you on all points officer.  It will take a long time, at least a whole generation.  But congress can be changed.  

It is also time for a new political party in America, at real third alternative.  But we need a good leader for that. 

GregWiens
GregWiens

@lookinglogically @GregWiens

Sorry man, but that argument does not hold water either.  65% of Canada's popluation is in an area about the size of New York State (Toronto, Southern Onterio, Ottowa, and Montreal are just as densly populated at Michigan and Ohio.  I have family in both areas.  

These more densely populated areas are safest areas of Canada (ok not Montreal).  You are almost twice as likely to be murdered or have a violent crime per capita in the more rural areas or small cities of Canada (such as in Winnipeg, Regina, and Saskatoon) than the Mega city of Toronto (3rd largest city in North America).  And you are almost 4 times a likely to have a violent crime happen against you in the Territories (Northwest, Yukon, and Nunavut) which have the least density in population. 

It is much harder to use a hunting rifle or a shot gun in a violent crime such as robbery.  

Ban hand guns and assault rifles and you will notice a drop in murder rates, but it will take a generation.  



RShultz210
RShultz210

@Lonecia @Robine @neotechni Ms. Lonecia I wish that there were some way to properly apologize to a white woman who had to live in a region of our country that harbored such young Neanderthals as those you all too accurately describe. I wish that the South did not still have that reputation as a great many of the young people in the South these days simply don't behave in the way that they did then. The problem, of course, is that too much water has indeed gone under the bridge and those young people in the South who do try ever so hard to counter this admittedly deserved reputation go unheard. As Shakespeare's character Marc Anthony decried; "the evil that men do lives after them, and the good is too oft interred with their bones". I really believe that many young people in the South would much rather "bury Ceasar" as concerns the mess he left with us rather than praise him for the continuing reputation that he instead left us with. I can only suggest that you give the South a chance to show what refinement it is capable of rather than the vulgarity it is known for.

My Sincerest Respect,

Richard W. Shultz

rfaction
rfaction

Please work on your reading comprehension skills, that is exactly what I was saying. ... I was responding GregWiens who tried to compare to the USA and Canada, claiming the countries are essentially the same except gun laws. My point is simply that they're dissimilar enough for the comparison to be invalid (as in I was contrasting, not comparing). Learn to read before calling someone a moron.

GregWiens
GregWiens

@Openminded1 @GregWiens @Pathfinder 

I live in a community where hunting is how people feed themselves.  I currently live in Northern Saskatchewan, if the deer are not hunted they become overpopulated, their food supply over winter gets depleted and they slowly starve to death.  
It might be hard for an American in the lower 49 to imagine anymore but where I live in Canada now the wildlife is in such abundance that if we don't hunt we are hurting the animals.  And after we hunt them we eat them.  

On a dirt bike ride last week I saw a badger, a porcupine, a herd of mule deer, a moose, and fresh bear poop.   

Yes it does sound like paradise but we also have six to seven months of snow.  

Hunting in the lower 49 often doesn't make sense but it sure does here. 


GregWiens
GregWiens

@RShultz210 @GregWiens @Pathfinder 

Simply look at the stats Mr Shultz, 80% of murders happen with hand guns, made with the purpose to shoot people.  Then 12 are done with assault weapons and that leaves 8% done with shot guns and hunting rifles.  


Openminded1
Openminded1

@GregWiens @Pathfinder You would kill an innocent animal , i could not do that they are defenseless killing man with a gun pointed at me  that is easy. i never had a rabbit,or dear, or even a canadian  goose  point a gun at me. i did have many thugs shoot and point guns at me. and was lucky enough to be able to shoot back and straighter. The Vietcong shot at me too i had know problem shooting them either. But never had any livestock point a gun at me. so you keep shooting those defenseless geese and I will enjoy my retirement, by the way I am authorized to carry a concealed weapon nation wide. Guess i am lucky in case i run into armed geese.

RShultz210
RShultz210

@GregWiens @Pathfinder I think you'd better pray for some personal responsibility of your own. You need it a hell of lot more than Pathfinder does if you can't realize that your gun can be used to kill people just easily as his can, and don't tell me different because I will laugh in your face. What do you think one of your 12 gauge pumps cut down enough to conceal can DO to somebody from 10 feet loaded with 00 buckshot?  I'll give you a hint, the entrance wound will be big as a softball and it will knock him 6 or 7 feet before he hits the ground. And you have the utter gall to call this man a racist bigot! You're the one who should be locked up!

GregWiens
GregWiens

@SoulOneGodkiller @GregWiens @Pathfinder 

Sorry, but that is simply not true.  Many atrocities have been done in the name of a religion but the same has been true of in the name of nationalism and atheism.  

And telling me to have sex with you is not the way to have a civil conversation. 

SoulOneGodkiller
SoulOneGodkiller

@GregWiens @Pathfinder

@ greg wiens- your religion has killed more than ALL firearms ever produced, and you have the gaul, to claim that makes you special, as I recall your so called god murdered every one on the planet with a flood, you sir pray to the greatest mass murder this planet has ever been convinced of. so get on your knees I have something you can pray to.

Openminded1
Openminded1

@RShultz210 @Openminded1 @GregWiens You must really be a dumb ass, showing that stupid looking fat face and using your real name and saying you are willing to shoot a police officer. You do know moron that the FBI monitors this site, and the file on you just grew. You are one dumb ass wipe.

Openminded1
Openminded1

@GregWiens @Openminded1 Easier said the done I am afraid, politics here are all about special interest and who's pockets get lined. most politics and politicians world wide are that way. i afraid a third party will start out ok with new rhetoric and end up no different then what we have now.

Peggysmom
Peggysmom

@RayGarza @GregWiens @lookinglogically Not really, the reason why Chicago has so much gun crime is because all their guns come from states where it is legal, like Missouri. Whether you're a person who wants a gun for safety or one to commit murder, just drive a few miles over the border. The gun laws in Chicago are meaningless.

GregWiens
GregWiens

@RayGarza @GregWiens @lookinglogically 

There is never only one answer but one reason why I see this is it is because there is a glut of illegal guns that will take a generation to get out of the system. Second, we have a culture of violence that will take at least a generation to get away from.  

But answer the question, why did it work in New York City?  Why did it work in Canada?  Because it was aloud to work for the long term. 


RayGarza
RayGarza

@GregWiens @lookinglogically CHicago has some of the strictest gun laws..what just happened? Gun laws make people more vulnerable and criminals more effective.

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