Police Facing Off With Snowstorm in California Mountains in Hunt for Accused Cop Killer

Police have tracked suspected gunman Christopher Jordan Dorner to Big Bear Lake, a ski resort 100 miles east of Los Angeles, but the trail may be growing cold.

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San Bernardino County Sheriff SWAT team members return to the command post at Bear Mountain in Big Bear Lake, California February 8, 2013.

Officials and personnel from several Southern California law enforcement agencies are braving a major snowstorm in hopes of finding a former Los Angeles police patrolman who is accused of killing three people, including a Riverside, Calif., police officer. But so far they have come up with very little in the manhunt that has entered its second day.

The search for Christopher Jordan Dorner is now centered around Big Bear Lake, a popular resort community about 100 miles east of Los Angeles, when authorities found the burned out remains of the former Naval Reservist’s truck in a wooded area there. They also found tracks leading from the truck, but at a Friday morning press conference, San Bernadino County Sheriff John McMahon said officers followed the tracks into the woods until they led to an area where the ground was frozen, losing the trail.

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McMahon, who gave updates to the media as heavy snow fell on the area, believes that the tracks are Dorner’s and said police were searching the mountains around Big Bear where several resort cabins sit, many of them empty, which would give Dorner several places to hide. It is unclear if he owns a cabin at the resort or if he came to the nearby ski resort.

At least 100 officers were searching the area through the storm, which is limiting police visibility. But McMahon said helicopters equipped with heat sensors were grounded because of the weather.

The efforts to find Dorner could be made much more difficult by the inclement weather forecast for the area. The National Weather Service has issued a winter storm warning for that part of southern California. As much as 10 inches of snow could fall on areas higher than 6,000 feet with temperatures dropping into the low 20s.  Police were searching door-to-door for the suspect through the community up until midnight and McMahon said that search will resume throughout Friday. “Our folks just have different clothes and boots on but we’re going to continue to search regardless of the weather,” he said. “We’re going to continue searching until either we discover that he left the mountain or we find him, one of the two.”

Schools in the Big Bear Lake Unified School District were closed on Friday as a precaution.

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Meanwhile, the LAPD is leaving no stone unturned in its urgent search for Dorner, and police officials in counties stretching from Nevada, Arizona and into northern  Mexico have joined the hunt. Several people have called in leads which turned out to be hoaxes. Police have been placed on protective duty to guard several people named in an online manifesto posted to Dorner’s Facebook page. Authorities fear he may try to attack them in retribution for his 2008 dismissal from the force.

Police believe Dorner murdered Cal State Fullerton assistant basketball coach Monica Quan and her fiancée on Sunday. In the manifesto, Dorner accuses Quan’s father Randy, who represented Dorner in a dispute with the LAPD, of helping facilitate his firing. He is also accused of wounding one police officer who had been set to guard one of the potential victims named in his manifesto, and of attempting to hijack a boat in San Diego. The LAPD says Dorner is carrying multiple weapons, including an assault rifle, and should be considered extremely dangerous.

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dcooper0011
dcooper0011

THIS IS WHY THE UNITED STATES IS DOOMED

What would you say if the entire Los Angeles Superior Court Judges were found guilty for excepting money that was NOT authorized by LAW. And after that decision they paid a lobbyist to go to congress and requested and received Retro Active Immunity from Prosecution? And nothing in the media. Dead silent.
Now look up Senate Bill SBX211.

Let me give you an idea of what Retro Active Immunity Is.

HISTORY OF RETRO ACTIVE IMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES
1. given for illegal merger of six large banks in 1965 (we can see the effects of that now. TOO BIG TO FAIL)
2. given for unconstitutional use of torture
3. given to telecom company for illegal wire taps. (Fisa bill that led to the patriot act)
4. given to Judges for taking bribes. (SBX211)

Ted Kennedy back in 1965 in regards to the illegal merger of six large banks.
Quote: ""The very idea of “retroactive immunity” for lawbreaking corporations is so radical, so repugnant to the most basic principles of the “rule of law,”"

auronlu
auronlu

They haven't found Dorner, but they got out their frustrations by shooting up a 71-year-old mail carrier and her daughter, utterly TRASHING their blue truck with bullets -- no warning, no orders, no nothing, they just opened fire because the truck was driving slowly and swerving from one side of the street to the other -- as the daughter tossed the newspapers onto people's driveways.

Said blue truck which was neither the color nor make of Dorner's truck. I mean, it wasn't even a silvery blue; it was a bright blue; his was silver. 

Buuuut the police were just protecting themselves from flying newspapers, so it's not worth covering that aspect of the story, I guess. 

The only reason it was mentioned in the Times, I suspect, is because it was Times employees who got shot. 

neko.el.gato
neko.el.gato

Wow, hope those two ladies the police shot up are doing ok.

wgalison
wgalison

ABC reports:


"Dorner is believed to have killed one police officer and injured two others early this morning, in addition to killing two civilians, on a spree that he threatened would have a "high action of violence" in an angry missive posted to his Facebook wall earlier this week."


from: http://abcnews.go.com/US/los-angeles-cops-chris-dorners-manifesto-speaks/story?id=18434105


Woah... roll back the tape. Let's take a look at that sentence:


Dorner is "believed" to have killed an officer and injured two others....in addition to killing two civilians"? 


Does it mean to say: "Dorner is believed to have killed one policeman and injured two civilians and to have killed two civilians" ? 


Or does it mean that he is believed to have killed a police officer, but DID KILL two civilians... no "belief" involved?


I speak English pretty well, but I can't make it out.


Is this merely atrocious writing, or is it a deliberate attempt to convict Dorner as the killer (of civilians), without a trial?


Suspects are ALWAYS described as "alleged", but in this case the author separated the clauses to imply that Dorner killed the civilians. Of course, if a lawyer catches them on that, they can argue in their defense that they have the writing skills of a fifth grader. 


Also, the use of the phrase "it is believed" is loaded as well. If we say, "it is believed that the Universe is 13 billion years old" we all understand that "it is believed" refers to the  consensus of experts in the subject. 


In the Dorner case, the proper language would be "It has been alleged that...." and preferably, "It has been alleged by..... who?.... excuse me?......OH, the LAPD! 


I will not be surprised if the LAPD killed these women in order to blame it on Dorner.


But with media bias like this, how would we ever know?


dcooper0011
dcooper0011

HISTORY OF RETRO ACTIVE IMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES

1. given for illegal merger of six large banks in 1965 (we can see the effects of that now)

2. given for unconstitutional use of torture

3. given to telecom company for illegal wire taps. (Fisa bill that led to the patriot act)

4. given to Los Angeles Superior Court Judges for taking bribes. (SBX211)

Please sign petition to repeal Senate Bill SBX211
Retro Active Immunity for illegal payments to judges.

Ted Kennedy back in 1965 in regards to the illegal merger of six large banks.
Quote: “”The very idea of “retroactive immunity” for lawbreaking
corporations is so radical, so repugnant to the most basic principles of
the “rule of law,””

JanetMichaels
JanetMichaels

@auronlu  

The police will "take cover" by saying the vehicle was headed very close to one of the people Dorner targeted in his manifesto and also that the vehicle was suspicious b/c they turned the lights off when they came onto the residential street.  Of course, they turned their lights off b/c so they wouldn't disturb the sleeping neighborhood. 

But no matter how much tension there was, the police had no right ... it has now come out that some bullets missed the truck and hit two parked cars as well as a garage door -- freaking morons, they could have killed a bunch of people if it was a different time of day. 

 

JanetMichaels
JanetMichaels

@neko.el.gato  

Yes me too.  What a tragedy for a 71-year old woman to be hit ... anyone but especially someone of that age.  I see they have an attorney and I'm glad -- no matter how dangerous Dorner is, the police had no right to open fire on that vehicle. 

JanetMichaels
JanetMichaels

@wgalison 


There was nothing atrocious about the writing ... your comprehension may be lacking however.   I almost couldn't believe reading this critique when you used the word "and" ... in the very place where the writer used the words "in addition to".  It's crystal clear that what was being conveyed was an officer was killed, two others were shot (injured) and he had also killed two civilians (days earlier).  The story has been all over the news so not quite sure why the confusion. 


Also regarding "alleged" ... using "it is believed" is commonplace and acceptable.

I would have never bothered with this comment until I read this ridiculous quote from you:  "I will not be surprised if the LAPD killed these women in order to blame it on Dorner."

One, get the story straight.  He killed a male officer and days earlier a heterosexual couple -- a man and a woman meaning there is one deceased female.  Second, as if this story isn't bad enough, how patently absurd to suggest the LAPD committed murder.  I am well aware of (and appalled by) the racism within PDs ... but to take as far as you have is getting into loony territory.

I'm hoping after Dorner is caught or dead that a serious discussion will take place regarding his grievances about racism and brutality with the LAPD ... an adult conversation without wild-eyed conspiracies.

wgalison
wgalison

@JanetMichaels @wgalison

Janet, After writing this I read more about the killing of Monica Quan and her Fiancee. I agree that since Quan's family was specifically mentioned in Dorner's "manifesto",  it is likely that he did kill them, which is entirely wrong and beyond justification.

However, I stand by my analysis of the reporting. There is a correct way to construct the sentence, and the author didn't use it. 

The correct form is: "Dorner is believed to have killed one policeman and injured two civilians and to have killed two civilians". 

It is shorter, and it leaves no ambiguity, because it ties the  "it is believed" to the killing of the civilians. 

Any English teacher will tell you that this is the proper construction, and that the other is grammatically ambiguous. 

I do object to your phrase: "how patently absurd to suggest the LAPD committed murder".

If the LAPD barrage of bullets had killed the occupants of the van (as intended), and several other people on the street behind it, what would that have been? Self defense? If you shot someone in their car because you thought their car looked like the car of someone you feared might hurt you, would you get off on self defense? I would hope not.

I am extremely familiar with how police departments assassinate civilians for illicit reasons. My friend Sunny Sheu was bludgeoned to death by NYPD detectives because he was whistle blowing against a corrupt judge who helped steal his home. It was a strategic assassination, and it is being covered up by the NYPD, FBI and the mainstream media. 

I have spent the past three years of my life fighting for justice for Sunny. I posted a website and wrote an article which was published in Truthout.org.

www.sunnysheu.blogspot.com

http://truth-out.org/news/item/10943-the-death-of-sunny-sheu

My Truthout article has been reprinted by dozens of reputable news sources, and has never been reputed by any of the people named in the article. Several retired NYPD detectives support my conclusions. 

I am certain that the same thing happens in LA all the time. I do not think that the LAPD killed Quan but there is nothing "patently absurd" about suggesting that the L:APD would commit cold, calculated murder. 




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