The NRA Wants More Guns in Schools. Could It Prevent Another Sandy Hook?

Several states are considering providing guns and training to school personnel in an effort to prevent armed invasions

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Wooden cut-outs of angels are set up as a memorial for the victims of an elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn.

A week after a gunman killed 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school, the executive vice president of the National Rifle Association broke his silence on the tragedy to call for stronger security in schools. “I call on Congress today, to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation,” Wayne LaPierre said in a press conference interrupted twice by protesters.

It’s not as farfetched as it sounds. According to a Gallup poll conducted in the aftermath of the shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School, 53% of Americans believe a greater police presence can help prevent future calamities. And even before LaPierre spoke, a movement was already growing among state lawmakers to  prevent another school slaughter like the one that devastated Newtown, Conn. Specifically, by putting guns in the hands of teachers and school personnel.

By Wednesday, lawmakers in eight states were prepared to introduce legislation to allow – even require – guns in schools, either in the hands of police officers assigned to schools or secretly carried by school personnel. Schools, they say, have become prime targets specifically because they are gun-free zones, but a killer might think twice about targeting a school whose teachers and administrators could shoot back. “Why do you call 911 when you’re in trouble? Because you want someone with a gun to come and help you,” says Virginia Assemblyman Bob Marshall. The details vary, but most of the plans put forth would require armed school employees to have a concealed weapon permit, undergo extensive weapon-use training, and limit ammunition to frangible bullets that break apart rather than ricochet.

(MORE: Behind the Iconic Photo from Sandy Hook)

It’s not a new idea. In Texas, individual school systems can set policies allowing armed employees and that’s what tiny Harrold, population 463, whose 103 students all attend a single school, did in 2007.It’s a thoroughly rural district, says Superintendent David Thweatt – also the school’s debate team coach – but one with U.S. Highway 287, a major artery from the Texas panhandle into Oklahoma, as a neighbor. “We’re isolated,” says Thweatt, “but we also have a four-lane highway coming out of Dallas-Ft. Worth in front of the school and a lot of traffic. And we have an extreme meth problem in our area.”

After an angry addict showed up at the school looking for the brother of a dealer he said ripped him off, security cameras and magnetic door locks that could be thrown with a moment’s notice of trouble were installed at the school. Then in October 2006 a shooter walked into a one-room school in Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania and shot 10 little girls, killing five of them, and a year later, 32 people were shot and killed at Virginia Tech. Thweatt started questioning whether locked doors and teaching kids to hide was enough. “We’re 30 minutes from the nearest police station, so we have to be our own first responders. We wanted to be taken off the radar as a target.” Thweatt won’t say how many of the school’s 25 employees are armed; that information is “a key to the surprise factor.” But he is convinced his “Guardian Plan” works and that having guns in school is no different from Air Marshals on domestic flights.

Says Thweatt: “In 1990 we created gun-free zones for schools, and that was aimed mostly at gangs. But we forgot the bad guys couldn’t care less about the law, so we just left scores of kids across the country defenseless against these people. There’s a bias against firearms in general and the feeling that guns and school don’t mix, but it’s something we need to consider to protect our kids.”

(MORE: Obama Takes a First Step on Gun Control after Sandy Hook)

The states considering such legislation include:

South Carolina – State Republican Representative Phillip Lowe argued that if teachers can be trusted with the nation’s children, they can be trusted to protect them too. On Tuesday, he filed a bill that would allow a public school employee with a concealed weapons permit to carry a gun on school grounds. Only school workers with no history of “violence or unmanaged anger” could carry guns and they would have to keep the gun on them at all times.

Virginia – Assemblyman Marshall said he will introduce legislation requiring all public schools “have a person with a concealed weapon.” Governor Bob McDonnell has indicated his support.

Oklahoma – “It is incredibly irresponsible to leave our schools undefended, to allow mad men to kill dozens of innocents when we have a very simple solution available to us to prevent it,” State Rep. Mark McCullough told the Tulsa World in response to questions about the guns in schools legislation he will introduce. “I’ve been considering this proposal for a long time. In light of the savagery on display in Connecticut, I believe it’s an idea whose time has come.”

Nevada – Republican State Senator Bob Beers says he will submit a bill allowing school personnel to carry concealed firearms provided they complete training exceeding standards set for law enforcement.  “The theory is that insane people don’t go on shooting sprees around people who have weapons,” Beers told Las Vegas Channel 8 News.

South Dakota – Saying the Newton killings were “like shooting fish in a barrel,” state Rep. Betty Olson plans to introduce legislation allowing, but not requiring, school personnel to be armed.

Minnesota –Republican Rep. Tony Cornish doesn’t have Democratic Governor Mark Dayton’s support, but the retired police chief still plans to introduce legislation arming teachers and school staff as the best way to prevent more school killings. “The best person to defend yourself is yourself,” he says

Oregon – State Rep. Dennis Richardson on Monday asked his constituents for feedback on a “campus responders” program allowing the arming of “two or three adult volunteers” in every Oregon public school. “Currently, when a killer begins his rampage the only armed person in the school for at least five minutes after the sound of the first gunshot is the mass murderer,” Richardson said. “If this procedure had been implemented, the number of students and educators killed in every school massacre from Columbine to Virginia Tech to Sandy Hook might have been greatly reduced.”

Tennessee – State Sen. Frank Niceley wants to require all schools to have at least one armed staff member. If not a police officer, then another school employee licensed to carry a concealed weapon and extensively trained in the use of a gun. “There was no resource officer at that school,” Nicely says of Sandy Hook Elementary. “If there had been someone who could shoot back, maybe he (shooter Adam Lanza) wouldn’t have gone there.”

Missouri – A guns in schools bill sponsored by Republican Rep. Mike Kelley already has the support of more than two dozen lawmakers.

MORE: Guilt by Association: Troubling Legacy of Sandy Hook May Be Backlash Against Children with Autism

612 comments
CanadianEh
CanadianEh

"NRA wants more guns in schools"


This IS propaganda... it is short, simple, and conveys a non obvious message that is in fact the REAL message.


First, the NRA is symbolic of every legal gun owner in America.  Second, it suggest that these people want to increase the level of danger in schools by adding guns to schools to dangerous people, such as spree shooters.  This is *inferred* because of context, it is said by people such as Obama while standing around victims and families of Newtown while he is noting that guns were the cause of these killings.


 No one is saying that the NRA wants to arm a couple qualified teachers, they are saying "more guns in schools", these are entirely two different messages. 


"More guns in schools" is a message of anger, rage, and hate because if its implications and the way it is use- to miss lead and to demonized all legal gun owners are crazy dangerous people who want to start handing out guns like candy to little kids in schools (see newspaper articles with photos like http://www.theipinionsjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/nra.jpg  or http://www.savvy-inc.com/Portals/198122/images/IMG_3108.JPG or http://blogs.post-gazette.com/2013_Rogers_Cartoons/050713_Guns_For_Kids.jpg.



THE ONLY people who ever said kids should be armed in schools or guns should be handed out like candy to anyone is the mass media and Obama et al. while pointing the finger at the NRA and every legal gun owner in America......


this is demonization, scapegoating, and stereotyping purpose built to promote anger and hate towards every legal gun owner in America and their rights to self defense, period.



Fiver
Fiver

I COMPOSED A LENGTHY COMMENT THIS MORNING AND IT WAS DELETED BY TIME.COM.

TIME.COM IS CENSORING THIS MESSAGE BOARD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fiver
Fiver

D.H.S.  just purchased 1600 million bullets.  That's five bullets for each person in America.  Only a fool would trust the government.  The criminals who control our government want your guns while they arm themselves to the teeth.  Have you noticed that marky d sodd is affraid to reply to me?  marky d sodd is a chicken,  afraid to argue against the facts.  Your silence is proof you can't make a coherent case for gun control.  WWW.INFOWARS.COM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RonNicklas
RonNicklas


For those of you who want the abbreviated version:

---------Quote--------

Kleck is satisfied that the survey's results confirm his analysis of previous surveys which show that
American civilians commonly use their privately-owned firearms to defend
themselves against criminal attacks, and that such defensive uses significantly
outnumber the criminal uses of firearms in America.

...

Readers may be interested to know that Kleck is a member of the ACLU, Amnesty International USA, and Common Cause, among other politically liberal organizations. He is also a lifelong registered Democrat. He is not and has never been a member of or contributor to the NRA, Handgun Control Inc., or any other advocacy group on either side of the gun-control issue, nor has he received funding for research from any such organization.

-------End Quote-------


http://rense.com/general76/univ.htm

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@RonNicklas 

Please.  Say no more.  Really

.It is painful to watch you flailing about, continuously unable to offer
any proof for your absurd assertions about a mythical neighbor and a
home-invasion which you allege he stopped with a gun.The fact is
that you can, as usual, not prove your bare-faced lies. 

You are impotent, which I suspect is at the root of your fascination with guns.You
made a claim, you can offer no proof to back it up, and you have once
again been caught with your pants down.  It is an ugly sight.

Seriously...please say no more.  You merely make yourself more ridiculous.

Fiver
Fiver

Marky d Sodd is a paid hack shill.  He ignored all of my arguments.  He spends so much time here because this is his paid job.  Why would anyone listen to someone who wants to be Marquis De Sade?  He's emulating the guy who invented sadism !   If you want to be a victim and get sent to a concentration camp, then turn in your guns.  All genocides have preceded by gun control.   All mass shooters are on prescription drugs and under mind control.  These shootings are staged to compel the public to turn in their guns, so the psychos in charge can  complete their takeover of America.  They were behind 911 and have been using it to convince you to give up the Constitution.          Watch the 7 minute movie at the below link:

 http://www.infowars.com/psychopaths-in-high-places/

Check out this recent development:

http://www.infowars.com/a-warning-to-gun-grabbers-and-collectivist-media-by-calling-for-gun-control-you-are-unleashing-your-own-worst-nightmare/

Now watch what happens when you give up your right to have guns.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40lqavdk7A8

 Go to this page to see who your leaders really are, and how they only appear to be at odds with each other.  Be sure to scroll  down to the politicians.

http://www.whale.to/b/hand.html

Go to this site to learn how prevalent mind control is.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/

Go here to experience the real news.  To see the truth.

http://www.infowars.com/

Finally go here to save yourself, your family, and America.  

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

Remember, marky d sadd is not a real person, he's a paid agent working for those who want to destroy America, freedom, and humanity.  

ArmedPatriots
ArmedPatriots

The Israelis figured it out. THEIR kids are protected by armed guards.

Pretty damned sick when WE dont care about our kids enough than to give them 'gun free zones' that just get them murdered....

SharinKhosa
SharinKhosa

When is the world going to take the gun/weapons manufacturing industry to task? They are the sponsors to NRA etc…Any profit from the sale of gun/weapons is blood money. When is the world going to wake-up and realise since WW1 weapons manufacturing industry has been a major agitator for world conflict, ie, to begin and prolong conflict to ensure continuous profit. When are we going to become citizens of the world and stand up and say enough killing, enough blood has been spilled and enough profit made from killing and murdering human beings, enough is enough.

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

Ah!!! Just in time for Christmas!!!!

Two more gun murders -- this time two firefighters.

No doubt the insane LaPierre will say the solution is to put armed guards in the firehouses.

The solution is to REPEAL THE 2ND AMENDMENT!!!

THE NRA MURDER-MACHINE IS GOING DOWN THIS TIME!!!




Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd


Larry Alan Burns is the federal district judge in San Diego who just last month sentenced Tuscon shooter Jared Lee Loughner to seven consecutive life terms.

Burns is a self-described conservative, appointed to the bench by President George W. Bush, but in an op-ed published by The Los Angeles Times, he recently publicly called for a new assault weapons ban "with some teeth this time."

"Ban the manufacture, importation, sale, transfer and possession of both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines," Burns wrote. "Don't let people who already have them keep them. Don’t let ones that have already been manufactured stay on the market. I don’t care whether it's called gun control or a gun ban. I’m for it."

Burns also wrote, "There is just no reason civilians need to own assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Gun enthusiasts can still have their venison chili, shoot for sport and competition, and make a home invader flee for his life without pretending they are a part of the SEAL team that took out Osama bin Laden."

The tide has turned!

GRIEVING MOTHERS IN CONNECTICUT WILL HAVE A CHRISTMASMEMORY FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES THANKS TO THE NRA!!!

Guns are DESIGNED to KILL.

Cars are not designed to kill.

Ropes are not designed to kill.

Motorcycles are not designed to kill.

Knives are not designed to kill.

Loaves of bread are not.

Baseball bats are not designed to kill

Movies are not designed to kill.

Videogames are not designed to kill.

Airplanes are not designed to kill.

GUNS ARE DESIGNED TO KILL!
NRA PROMOTES SLAUGHTER AND DEATH!
GRIEVING MOTHERS: UNITE! M.A.D.D. WILL BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU DO SO!

Surfboat
Surfboat

A fully automatic pnuematic pellet gun should be a standard issue for all school principles and assistant principles and 20 minutes practice per week for 3 months should be enough.  Let 2 or three be able to draw down on a perp and watch him beg for mercy.  5 poorly placed pellets and he'll either be blind, bleeding from his face or both.  No firearms needed. 

dontn123
dontn123

"On December 17, 2012, Senator Feinstein announced the key provisions of the bill she intends to introduce. The proposed legislation will ban the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of over 100 specific firearms. Also banned will be certain named semiautomatic rifles, handguns and shotguns that can use a detachable magazine, as well as fixed magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds.

The sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of other ammunition feeding devices that can accept more than 10 rounds will also be banned."

http://www.decodedscience.com/new-assault-weapons-ban-no-gun-seizure/22871

You better read it and read it well for more then 100 different guns not just to include the AR15.....it is hand guns, shot guns, and so on.... Wake Up Stupid

afelipe
afelipe

I find the focus on guns problematic (and I'm a Leftist). Yes guns are a problem, but they're a symptom. Beyond the obvious tragedy of this event, I am saddened by the tragedy of how the Western Left has been unable to put forth a unified narrative regarding why mass shootings have became more common after the 70s, and why at the same time mental health issues became much more common in the West (especially in the US).

What is the root cause of this tragedy and why isn't the Left talking about it?

The reaction to the Connecticut killings demonstrates the need for the Western Left to reevaluate itself, and to remember that it was once a potent force, in order to become one again.
I wrote up my thoughts on the above, along with my thoughts on the root cause here: http://alexfelipe.wordpress.com/2012/12/22/the-lefts-failure-post-newtown-connecticut/

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

Take a minute a send the NRA a big THANK YOU  for giving 26 families in Connecticut a Christmas they will never be able to forget.

Its the least you can do.  They have done so much for schoolchildren and grieving mothers.

And double ehe effectiveness by sending a copy to your Congresspersons, especially the RepubliKKKans, thanking them as well for their contributions to the murderous successes of the NRA.  You can find the names and addresses of your Congresspersons and state-local government officials on the internet.  Google can provide them for you in several different formats and sequences.

Remind your officials that their own children may be NEXT!

There is enough blood on the NRA's hands.  These murders of innocent people CAN be stopped, and WILL be stopped.

 THESE 20 CHILDREN WILL NOT BE OPENING PRESENTS ON CHRISTMAS MORNING.


Charlotte Bacon, 6  
Daniel Barden, 7  
Olivia Engel, 6  
Josephine Gay, 7  
Ana Marquez-Greene, 6  
Dylan Hockley, 6  
Madeline Hsu, 6  
Catherine Hubbard, 6  
Chase Kowalski, 7  
Jesse Lewis, 6  
James Mattioli, 6  
Grace McDonnell, 7  
Emilie Parker, 6  
Jack Pinto, 6  
Noah Pozner, 6  
Caroline Previdi, 6  
Jessica Rekos, 6  
Avielle Richman, 6  
Benjamin Wheeler, 6  
Allison Wyatt, 6


RonNicklas
RonNicklas

This CRITICAL piece of information will become even more relevant later when we see legislation that promotes the regulation of AMMUNITION itself.  When the gov't requires all ammo to be "serial numbered" and tracked....   When they require expiring primers.....

And then we remember that they have BILLIONS of rounds of ammunition that they snapped up off the market JUST PRIOR to the said regulations....

Then we'll realize their true intentions.

RonNicklas
RonNicklas

@Fiver Marky is afraid to reply to ANYONE here who presented him with a legitimate question.  


******  SHEEPLE, WAKE UP!!!!!!   Your government is NOT benevolent!!!!! ******

RonNicklas
RonNicklas

A lifelong Democrat agreeing that the legal use of guns in America outnumbers the criminal use.

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@ArmedPatriots 

"Gun free zones", idiotic as the idea is, have killed no-one. 

 They have made it possible for NRA-Murder-Psychos to kill children.

The solution is to REPEAL THE 2ND AMENDMENT!!!

THE NRA MURDER-MACHINE IS GOING DOWN THIS TIME!!!

RonNicklas
RonNicklas

@Marky_D_Sodd      I have a MUCH better idea than repealing the 2nd Amendment!

First, let's repeal the 1st Amendment.  That way, the NRA-Murdering-Psychopaths won't be able to legally speak out in oppposition.  They can be immediately arrested and tried on "hate-speach" crimes before their opposition ever gets under-way.

Then, let's repeal the 3rd Amendment, so that armed soldiers can be legally "quartered" in ANY civillian's home.  (* Come on, think about the ATF/FBI gun registration database!!  Think how USEFUL that will be when "randomly selecting" which civillian's homes will be used for "quartering."  And, further, in light of impending budget cuts to "evil-Pentagon" spending, this should be an easy sell to "small-goverment" tea-partiers!!  They'll LOVE it!  "It'll help us cut the budget without cutting military strength.  They'll just stay in your homes for a few years.  Really.  We Promise.  Just a few.  And you'll hardly know they're there.  PLUS, you'll be SO SAFE with them there, you won't need your OWN firearms!!!!  You'll be SAFE!" *)

Then, thirdly, we can safely repeal the 2nd Amendment.  Because everyone who "wants" to own a mass-murder-inducing-evil-assault weapon will be SAFE and PROTECTED byt he soldier being quartered in their home during peace-time.  Plus, that'll make disarmament SO MUCH EASIER.  The soldier will already have a certain "repoire" with the subject of the disarmament.  (*Plus, the soldier will have time to search and seize the weapon, and he'll be armed while doing it, so it'll be effective! *)

Then we can go on and repeal the 4th Amendement.  It's just SO ANACHRONISTIC (like the 2nd).  These silly right-wingers think they actually have a GOD-GIVEN RIGHT to be safe and secure in their homes and properties!?!?!  UNREASONABLE search and seizures should become COMMONPLACE to put these people in their place (* and to ensure our continual power over them! *)

From there, there's just two Amendments left to repeal:  the 15th and the 19th.  That way, any person, or "class" of persons can be denied the right to vote.  (* Remember, think gun-registration database.  We just repealed other significant Amendments, and we don't want those right-wingers to vote to OVERTURN our Repeals like they did with Prohibition!  And then further, any individual who exudes "resistant tendencies" to our power can then be selectively denied the right to vote.  Remember, they can't legally speak out at this point, or defend themselves, or refuse unreasonable searches & seizures, so their "vote" is their last and only method of recourse.  Once this is gone, ABSOLUTE POWER will be OURS! *)

And that about does it.  At that point, any remaining portions of "Amendements" to the "Constitution" will be EASILY manipulated to mean whatever is expedient at the time, and only requires us to "moderate" the public opinion by staging events, controlling all media publications (remember, 1st Amendment is now gone!), etc. etc.  THEN WE'LL BE ABSOLUTELY FREE TO DISPLAY HOW UTOPIA CAN REALLY WORK!!!

How's that for a plan?

ArmedPatriots
ArmedPatriots

"THE NRA MURDER-MACHINE IS GOING DOWN THIS TIME!!!"

 ===

And please...when you can prove that the NRA had a single thing to do with any of these crimes, PROVE it.

Unlike your pukes in DC who WERE involved with FAst and Furious that caused the deaths of how many MEXICAN children?

 Additionally, you dont have the support to stop the NRA or the 2nd Amendment,   friend....


Gallop polls show 45% with guns in the home;

And a total of 55% saying to keep gun laws as they are now or make them less strict.
Wonder where you got your skewed information from....an anti gun group?

50%
are satisfied or VERY satisfied with gun laws as they are with 8%
having no opinion (for a total of 58% who arent complaining about gun
laws)

44% say keep gun laws as they are now. 11% say make them
LESS strict. 8% have no opinion for a total of 63% who arent preaching
stricter gun laws.

73% say there should NOT be any law banning handguns.

60% say to just enforce the CURRENT laws on the books, not add more.

45% have a gun IN the home with another 2% having it elsewhere for a total of 47% having guns.

47% say they either own a gun or someone else in the home does.

53% are AGAINST an 'assault' gun ban with 5% having no opinion totalling 58% that arent rambling on about a gun ban.

ArmedPatriots
ArmedPatriots

@Marky_D_Sodd  

Utterly ridiculous.

Your 'gun free zones' you all said would save the world did the exact opposite..the enable and encourage these killers. Not even remotely interested in trying YOUR whimsical methods at this point. Time for the adults to take control of the wheel for a while.

ArmedPatriots
ArmedPatriots

@Marky_D_Sodd  

 "The tide has turned!"

 ======

 ...yawn....

Gallop polls show 45% with guns in the home;
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/Guns.aspx

And a total of 55% saying to keep gun laws as they are now or make them less strict.
Wonder where you got your skewed information from....an anti gun group?

50% are satisfied or VERY satisfied with gun laws as they are with 8% having no opinion (for a total of 58% who arent complaining about gun laws)

44% say keep gun laws as they are now. 11% say make them LESS strict. 8% have no opinion for a total of 63% who arent preaching stricter gun laws.

73% say there should NOT be any law banning handguns.

60% say to just enforce the CURRENT laws on the books, not add more.

45% have a gun IN the home with another 2% having it elsewhere for a total of 47% having guns.

47% say they either own a gun or someone else in the home does.

53% are AGAINST an 'assault' gun ban with 5% having no opinion totalling 58% that arent rambling on about a gun ban.

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@afelipe  

I doubt that anyone reading here would for one moment believe your unproven assertion that you are a "leftist".  I think you are a liar.

 And the "left" IS talking about the root cause of this tragedy:  THE NRA, the GUN AND AMMUNITION MANUFACTURERS, and the self-serving misinterpretation of the anachronistic SECOND AMENDMENT are the root causes of this tragedy.

 We will repeal the Second Amendment, and the problem will be solved.

Thanks to the murder-enabling NRA GUN-PSYCHOS, there are 20 children in Connecticut who will not be opening presents on Christmas morning. 
 
There are 40 parents who will not be watching their children open gifts. 
 
There are 40 parents for whom Christmas will now, and forever, be a horrible memory, a day to be endured rather than celebrated. 
 
All because the NRA (mis)uses an anachronistic and useless Constitutional amendment to assure the "right" to possess and use weapons of mass destruction. 
 
The blood of these children, and the misery their murders have brought to so many families, lies entirely on the hands of the NRA, and the RepubliKKKan congresspersons who support them. 
 
Remember these murdered children. They are not martyrs. They are not saints who voluntarily laid down their lives. 
 
They are victims of murder, enabled by the NRA and the RepubliKKKans. 
 
Charlotte Bacon, 6  
Daniel Barden, 7  
Olivia Engel, 6  
Josephine Gay, 7  
Ana Marquez-Greene, 6  
Dylan Hockley, 6  
Madeline Hsu, 6  
Catherine Hubbard, 6  
Chase Kowalski, 7  
Jesse Lewis, 6  
James Mattioli, 6  
Grace McDonnell, 7  
Emilie Parker, 6  
Jack Pinto, 6  
Noah Pozner, 6  
Caroline Previdi, 6  
Jessica Rekos, 6  
Avielle Richman, 6  
Benjamin Wheeler, 6  
Allison Wyatt, 6

ArmedPatriots
ArmedPatriots

@Marky_D_Sodd 

 ACTUALLY,pal, it was YOUR side of the fence that created these 'gun free zones' that have served to ENABLE and ENCOURAGE every mass murder in every school for quite some years now.You remove any possibility of someone being ABLE to DEFEND these children then pretend that YOU arent to blame when they ARE defenseless.The NRA doesnt have a thing to do with it and they should start suing many of you nuts for libel.

JimSage
JimSage

@Marky_D_Sodd I agree. The 20 children who so nobly laid down their lives for our freedom in Newtown were martyrs and heroes, not victims. Their deaths should not be mourned, but celebrated. They were like the 4-year-olds in Iraq and Afghanistan who give their lives to drones and missiles for our freedom.

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@RonNicklas @Marky_D_Sodd 

Stay on your medications.  Consider electro convulsive therapy -- at a fairly high voltage.

What a joke.

What terrorist attacks/crimes/massacres have the NRA and their weapons of murder ever prevented, or even slowed down?

 None.

What terrorist attacks/crimes/massacres have the NRA and their weapons of murder ever endorsed/enabled/supported?

ALL OF THEM!!!

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@ArmedPatriots @Marky_D_Sodd  

Utterly ridiculous and self-serving, in the best NRA-Murder Machine style.  I have said nothing about 'gun-free zones' --now or at any other time.  

Indeed, it is time for the adults to take control of the wheel.

The solution is to REPEAL THE 2ND AMENDMENT!!!

THE NRA MURDER-MACHINE IS GOING DOWN THIS TIME!!!




Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@ArmedPatriots @Marky_D_Sodd 

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

"Armed Patriots"!!!

 What a joke.

What terrorist attacks/crimes/massacres have the NRA and their weapons of murder ever prevented, or even slowed down?

 None.

What terrorist attacks/crimes/massacres have the NRA and their weapons of murder ever endorsed/enabled/supported?

ALL OF THEM!!!

 

 

 

Surfboat
Surfboat

@Marky_D_Sodddd      Yes,  Much in the same way we should assume you meant to be significant and not trivial.

ArmedPatriots
ArmedPatriots


ACTUALLY,pal, it was YOUR side of the fence that created these 'gun free zones' that have served to ENABLE and ENCOURAGE every mass murder in every school for quite some years now.You remove any possibility of someone being ABLE to DEFEND these children then pretend that YOU arent to blame when they ARE defenseless.The NRA doesnt have a thing to do with it and they should start suing many of you nuts for libel.

RonNicklas
RonNicklas

Aww.... Did mommy call you to come upstairs and do your chores?

Right at the moment when YOU were asked for proof?


RonNicklas
RonNicklas

BTW, since all of a sudden you seem to be worried about "proof" and "citations"...... how 'bout some proof or citations for your "ASSertion" that guns have never stopped or slowed down a crime?  

I know it's difficult, but maybe if you work at it for a while you'll get the hang of it...  just use Google, and then paste the links to the stories or research articles.... like I did.  I'm sure that there's proof SOMEWHERE for you on the internet.  Go find it.

RonNicklas
RonNicklas

Maybe mommy will go out and get you a new bottle of vaseline.

RonNicklas
RonNicklas

Hey, when you get back from your next trip upstairs to get a new bottle of vaseline, could you try to answer my challenge below?

Find me a mass-shooting that happened at a Gun Show.  You can use Google if you want.  Maybe that'll help.

RonNicklas
RonNicklas

@Marky_D_Sodd  Wow.  that took you quite a long time.  Were you searching for a dictionary to look up "OBFUSCATE?"

Or is it just too difficult to type one-handed?

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@RonNicklas Please.  Say no more.  Really.

It is painful to watch you flailing about, continuously unable to offer any proof for your absurd assertions about a mythical neighbor and a home-invasion which you allege he stopped with a gun.

The fact is that you can, as usual, not prove your bare-faced lies.  You are impotent, which I suspect is at the root of your fascination with guns.

You made a claim, you can offer no proof to back it up, and you have once again been caught with your pants down.  It is an ugly sight.

Seriously...please say no more.  You merely make yourself more ridiculous.


RonNicklas
RonNicklas

@Marky_D_Sodd @RonNicklas No less surprising than you typing with one hand, and jacking with the other.  How long has it been since you left your momma's basement anyways?

That would require you to put on more than just your underwear, which apparently is full of your own bullshyt.

RonNicklas
RonNicklas

Why stop with just my neighborhood?  Let's see what Google has to say...

Googling:  "home invader shot and killed"

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/12/22/police-say-1-dead-3-wounded-in-sac-home-invasion/

http://m.fox5vegas.com/w/main/story/81295213/

http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/265730/45/Elyria-Home-invader-shot-killed-by-homeowner

http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/oct/31/man-shot-and-killed-in-home-invasion/

And my personal favorite:

http://gawker.com/5941081/92+year+old-wwii-vet-shoots-kills-home-invader-with-rifle

But yeah, you're right.  Firearms have NEVER stopped a crime.  Gun owners have NEVER used a (legally-owned) weapon to defend/protect themselves or their loved ones.

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@RonNicklas @Marky_D_Sodd So....as I suspected...your bullshyt story about a neighbor klling ahome intruder last week is just ... well bullshyt.  No proof.


What a BIG surprise.

RonNicklas
RonNicklas

@Marky_D_Sodd   Marky, Marky, Marky-Mark....

You've REALLY got to keep up with the conversation.  There's LOTS of truth presented in the comments below that you have yet to OBFUSCATE.  Like Dr. Kleck's research, of 2.5 MILLION "gun-victories" per year!  In order to help you MORE QUICKLY deny reality, I'll share the link with you to the publication of his research:

<a href="http://rense.com/general76/univ.htm">http://rense.com/general76/univ.htm</a>

Now, you'll have NO EXCUSE for not giving the final villification and denial of all research related to guns.  You'll be able to ONCE AND FOR ALL PROCLAIM FROM THE ROOFTOPS that your perception of reality, by proclamation, is now truth.  And ANYONE who dares to disagree with you must shut their mouths.  (* OR brandish a weapon with a superior caliber to yours, and aquire & fire faster than you *)

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@RonNicklas @Marky_D_Sodd  

Your neighbor, huh?  That must be in the news so it would be public information, right?  Got any cites or references to prove your idiotic claims?

RonNicklas
RonNicklas

@Marky_D_Sodd @RonNicklas Well, I certainly like the idea of shock-therapy for anyone who disagrees with my plan!  It'll make it SO much easier.


And that neighbor of mine who LAST WEEK shot and killed a home intruder, with that NRA sponsored weapon of murder, they're DEFINITELY going to get some of that shock-therapy!!

(*pay no attention to the armed criminal who had a DEMOCRAT-SPONSORED weapon of murder used, or intended anyway, to perpetrate the crime.  That's right... firearms have NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER stopped a crime ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.  We ALL know that's TRUE.  Because Marky said so.  And just because he said so, it's ABSOLUTELY TRUE. *)

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@Surfboat @Marky_D_Sodd 

Evidently it necessary to remind you that a homonym's are not only PROUNOUNCED the same as other words, but are also SPELLED the same way.  Note the spelling of principle and principal.

 And yes, I am afraid I am beginning to know you very well.

Surfboat
Surfboat

@Marky_D_Sodd @Surfboat Gee Marky, I didn't know you knew me so well.  I guess you want me to apologize for misspelling a word?  " I'm sorry Mr. Sodd, that I misspelled principal by using its homonym by mistake."   Does that make you feel better Mr. Sodd?    

Marky_D_Sodd
Marky_D_Sodd

@Surfboat @Marky_D_Sodd  

Trivial?  I'm not the one who doesnt understand the distinction between principle and principal.

But since you appear to have been incapable of sex for some years, and have had to sublimate with a your fascination with shooting people, you doubtless have become muddled in more than one way.


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